[PAA-Discuss] Rangel's Excellent Draft Proposal

[Amy Branham]

Margaret,

There is no reason to be so hostile.  Maybe you are because this whole thing 
hits way too close to home for you.  For those of us, though, who live with 
the consequences of war, every day (and I speak for myself not the rest of 
you), I can see reason in this.

I do not want to send more kids to war.  Honest I don't.  At the same time, 
though, I have been banging my head against a brick wall trying to end this 
damn war, as have many others.  I don't give a damn about the rich kids. 
It's the rest of middle of the road America who is riding the fence on this 
war, or the others who are supportive but won't send their own kids to do 
their dirty work that I think should be involved.  If they want to 
perpetuate this war, then they need to have a personal stake in it.  If they 
don't, then a draft would get the rest of them to respond in exactly the 
same way you have, thereby ending it much more quickly.

In the meantime, something has to be done to give those soldiers some relief 
who have been sent time after time after time.  They are tired.  They want 
and deserve to go home to their families.

We have to live in the real world, Margaret, where real wars occur and real 
people die or get maimed.  I would like to see an end to all wars.  I would 
like to see us pull out of Iraq immediately.  When we put Lakshmi's proposal 
out on the table for discussion, there was absolutely no response.  Not one.

In peace,
Amy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Margaret" <margd at r2rconnect.net>
To: "Sherry Glover" <sglover001 at houston.rr.com>; "Amy Branham" 
<abranham at houston.rr.com>; "Charli Stewart" <charli13 at hughes.net>; "Tara 
Cliff" <fawncliff at yahoo.com>; "PAA-Discuss" <discuss at paa-tx.org>; "Mikal" 
<Miklhut at aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Rangel's Excellent Draft Proposal


> <snipped from a different post in another venue>
> Depleted Uranium and the REAL reason for the Draft -- The Democrats push 
> the draft they say to "end war" by exposing "the sons of the rich" to 
> conscription -- that's sucker's bait -- Old soldier Ralph C. Whitley tells 
> us why the bi-partisan Zionist war machine must have the draft --DE
> end snip>
>
> Go for it guys....promote this "GD" draft bill ~ Margaret
>
> and then here's another GREAT comment...
>
> Flint Marble wrote:
>
>>    Re: Rangel's 'excellent draft proposal'- excellent  by what standard? 
>> The blunt fact is that all the hotshot politicos' and  elitists' kids 
>> will escape any draft law in effect. They did in Korea,  and they did in 
>> VietNam. And now the vast majority of males in Congress  who were 
>> supportive of the Iraq War never wore a military uniform. To  me hawkish 
>> okayer's of interventionist wars and prolonged occupations  are 
>> chickenhawks. As far as I'm concerning, Rangel is revealing a very 
>> misguided policy that would only provide cannon fodder for an assault  on 
>> Iran or a beefed-up continued occupation of Iraq. He's all wet on  this 
>> very bad idea which would serve only to turn this war into a   Democrats' 
>> war as NIxon did in turning VietNam into a Republican War as  it dragged 
>> on for three more years.
>>  Another generation of youth  don't need their lives being messed up by 
>> old fogeys who toy around  with war-making and warmongering. Without a 
>> draft and ending the  'back-door draft' that the missuse and overuse of 
>> the National Guard  and Reservists has relied on , there will be a 
>> hell-of-a-lot less war  in the future. Conning poor kids from 
>> opportunity-less areas into  enlisting for the 'wonderful career 
>> opportunities" has been the other  result of this misadventure in Iraq 
>> and Afghanistan.  Rangel's  dumb fool idea is a hidden time bomb that 
>> will only effect working  class kids, not the well-off kids from 'good' 
>> families who will find a  way to circumvent any draft- that's always been 
>> the case, and always  will be. Even during WWII some able-bodied males 
>> succeeded in dodging  the draft.
>>  What the Democrats and the  Congress generally SHOULD take action on 
>> right off  is properly  caring for the maimed and otherwise injured vets 
>> and their families  (here I have exposure to depleted uranium in mind and 
>> the agent orange  exposure of VietNam that the military and VA have never 
>> properly  acknowledged and dealt with). If the nation, and Congressional 
>> chickenhawks properly dealt with the costs of past wars, especially its 
>> combat vets and the damage inflicted on the invaded nations such as 
>> VietNam and Iraq, again,  fomenting wars would be far less likely  as 
>> they would carry the burden of extreme costs as our jackass Bush War  in 
>> Iraq has and will continue to way into the future. The cost in  American 
>> lives, Iraqi and Afghan lives, and serously maimed soldiers  and foreign 
>> civilians, will continue to haunt us far into the future.. "Excellent 
>> draft proposal" my ass!
>>  Sorry, but this pushed my hot button this a.m.
>>  Flint
>>
>>wilma_rottingham <snip> wrote: 
>>Hello Folks,
>>  Here is a link to an interview by Charlie Rangel and his excellent draft 
>> proposal.
>>  http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/20/rangel.draft/
>>  Thanks,
>>  Wilma
>>
>>
>>