[PAA-Discuss] Fwd: Emergency Petition: Stop the Veto

Sat Apr 28 16:41:53 EDT 2007

There are several members of the House and Senate who are proposing or
sponsoring stand-alone bills that would cut off funds for the war and/or set
deadlines for ending the war. These are not substitutes for turning down the
President's Supplemental Appropriations request for funds to continue the
war in Iraq.

In order to become law, a stand-along bill would need a veto-proof, 2/3rds
majority in both houses of Congress. Denying the President his Supplemental
Appropriations request for funds to continue the war would only take a "no"
vote of 50% plus one, in either house of Congress Senate Majority Leader
Harry Reid, for example, recently stated that if President Bush vetoes the
Supplemental Appropriations bill, he will pursue legislation that would end
funding for combat operations on March 31, 2008. In addition to allowing the
war to continue for another year and having loopholes allowing tens of
thousands of troops to stay in Iraq beyond the "deadline", a stand-alone
bill like this would require a 2/3 rds vote of both houses of Congress to
override a certain Presidential veto. 

Because of this, Senator Reid's proposal is really a posturing statement
that is more window-dressing for 

the 2008 elections rather than a serious strategy for ending the war in
Iraq. 

To end the war in Iraq, Congress must stand firm now with the Supplemental
Appropriations bill, refuse 

to give the President any more funds to continue the war, and press ahead
for full funding for a safe and 

orderly withdrawal from Iraq and the care our troops need when they come
home. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Carter [mailto:rwcsr1 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:20 PM
To: Lee Loe; 'Sherry Glover'; kkain1 at earthlink.net; 'June Bennett Larsen';
'PAA Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [PAA-Discuss] Fwd: Emergency Petition: Stop the Veto

Sorry, I cannot sign either.

Bob

Lee Loe <leeloe at igc.org> wrote:

Let him veto it and then we push for a bill that removes ALL US Personnel,
CLOSES ALL US bases, provides $$ for our returned soldiers, the rebuilding
of Iraq, and includes no war on IRAN or any other nation! This is a bad bill
which I don't understand why Bush is going to veto except to build his petty
ego (for himself) as the BOSS. I am not signing it either. Lee L

  _____  

From: discuss-bounces at paa-tx.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at paa-tx.org] On
Behalf Of Sherry Glover
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:03 PM
To: kkain1 at earthlink.net; 'June Bennett Larsen'; 'PAA Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [PAA-Discuss] Fwd: Emergency Petition: Stop the Veto

I think so too, Kathleen. If the defunding message is to be viable, then it
should be to defund the war, not the troops. Bush will have none of it. Let
him veto, then we push for an override.

Withdraw them all NOW!

Sherry

-----Original Message-----
From: Kathleen kain [mailto:kkain1 at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:40 PM
To: June Bennett Larsen; PAA Discussion List
Subject: Re: [PAA-Discuss] Fwd: Emergency Petition: Stop the Veto

Dear June:

I'm not going to sign this. Reid is perpetuating the fiction that this bill
is some kind of line in the sand and that to veto it is to deny troops
resources. Let Bush veto it and then let Congress send back a bill with a
2007 date for complete withdrawal and a caveat that all additional funds be
used for withdrawal. Anything less sends the wrong message. 

Kathleen Kain

kkain1 at earthlink.net

EarthLink Revolves Around You.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: June <mailto:jlarsen7 at houston.rr.com>  Bennett Larsen 

To: PAA Discussion List <mailto:Discuss at PAA-tx.org> 

Sent: 4/27/2007 1:47:15 PM 

Subject: [PAA-Discuss] Fwd: Emergency Petition: Stop the Veto

I signed.  I hope you will. 

June

Begin forwarded message:

From: Harry Reid <harryreid at giveemhellharry.com>

Date: April 27, 2007 1:25:16 PM CDT

To: June Bennett Larsen <jlarsen7 at houston.rr.com>

Subject: Emergency Petition: Stop the Veto

Reply-To: harryreid at giveemhellharry.com

  <http://www.giveemhellharry.com/images/32.gif> 

Dear June Bennett,

Congress has acted.

Both the House and Senate have passed a Supplemental Appropriations Bill
that fully funds our troops and provides a plan to responsibly end the war.

George Bush has repeatedly threatened to veto this bill. However I know that
you and the majority of Americans support our legislation. We only have a
few days to get that message through to the President. Tell George Bush:

Listen to the <http://www.giveemhellharry.com/page/petition/noveto>
American people - don't veto the Supplemental Appropriations Bill

The President has put our troops in the middle of an endless Iraqi civil
war. That's why a majority of Americans, a bipartisan majority in Congress
and the Iraq Study Group believe that this war cannot be won militarily and
the current path is not sustainable.

George Bush and Dick Cheney know their strategy has failed and they are now
desperately grasping at straws, attacking anyone trying to responsibly bring
our troops home. Instead of debating policy or working towards consensus,
the Bush administration has resorted to name-calling. For example several
days ago Dick Cheney came up to Capitol Hill and accused me of "defeatism."

Well I'm not going to get into a name-calling match with somebody who has a
9 percent approval rating. Instead I am going to spend my time working to
change course in Iraq. Tell George Bush:

Listen to the <http://www.giveemhellharry.com/page/petition/noveto>
American people - don't veto the Supplemental Appropriations Bill

A veto will deny our troops the resources they need, and send exactly the
wrong message to Iraq's political leaders. After more than four years of a
failed policy, it's time for us to change course.

Thank you,

Harry Reid

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