[PAA-Discuss] Hard to believe or is it?

[Alyssa Burgin]

I think one of the things we have to worry about with Fred Thompson is, he's 
not just a politico, he's a CELEB. Certainly all the televised time-wasting 
crapola about Anna N. Smith, Britney Spears, etc., teaches us that America 
loves celebs, more than they love hearing about the issues, that's for sure.

Well, gosh, doesn't it just naturally follow that America would love for a 
CELEB to run for Prez? That would prevent their having to actually think 
about anything. They could just vote for someone they think they know, via 
their sparkling turns on the teevee.

Back when I used to watch actual television (and not just news), my favorite 
tv show was Wiseguy. Fred Thompson starred on an "arc" of that show playing 
a snake-oil evangelical figure, in the mold of an even sleazier Jerry 
Falwell or Jim Baker. In the story, some white supremacists-racists types 
got involved with him, and he couldn't control what he set in motion. At the 
end, he reverted to his previous sales job, that of selling Florida condos 
to naive little old ladies.

I think Thompson was playing to type, as they say.

Alyssa Burgin

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From: RandyS <rscott77092 at earthlink.net>
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<PaulandCarole at msn.com>, Discuss at paa-tx.org
Subject: Re: [PAA-Discuss] Hard to believe or is it?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:25:49 -0600 (GMT-06:00)






Agreed, there was a time when we thought GWBush was inconsequential, that he 
couldn't possibly win - when we thought Pat Robertson & Jerry Feelwell were 
inconsequential, and only stupid people listen to them. We thought those 
State Malitia toy soldiers were inconsequential, but DN! this morning was 
discussing how powerful they've become.
Too bad we don't have access to the mainstream media to portray these guys 
as insane maniacs.

Randy




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I don't know.  The sheep are pretty dumb some times.

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This whole article reads like a load of bull to me. If this IS for real then 
this Fred Thompson is full of shit and not worth worrying about. HeÂ’s about 
as consequential as a fart in a whirlwind.



Kris







From: Paul Myers [mailto:PaulandCarole at msn.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 8:03 PM
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Subject: [PAA-Discuss] Hard to beleive or is it?



Friday, March 16, 2007

Fred Thompson Kicks Gandhi's Ass


Fred Thompson has not decided whether he is running for President yet, but 
he has already come out swinging like a presidential candidate. Giving us a 
preview of what his campaign would be like, Thompson has launched a 
no-holds-barred attack on a formidable foe. His target: Mahatma Gandhi. In a 
piece in the National Review called "Gandhi's Way Isn't the American Way" 
Thompson kicks Gandhi's ass in a way that is sure to have liberals and 
terrorists who read the National Review running scared. Just as tough as he 
appears to be in the movies and on TV's Law & Order, Thompson is not the 
kind of guy who goes in for easy victories by knocking down straw men.

According to Thompson, Gandhi, who led India to independence through 
non-violent civil disobedience, "is pretty much the symbol of the anti-war 
movement." Thompson knows this because members of Code Pink, an anti-war 
group protesting in front of the home of Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, 
have erected a papier-mâché statue of Gandhi and some people have held up 
signs saying "What Would Gandhi Do?" at anti-war demonstrations. While some 
people might dismiss these protesters as fringe elements of the anti-war 
movement, Thompson knows that they represent the heart and soul of 
liberalism, and that the only way to beat them is to knock their 
papier-mâché Gandhi down. "At what point is it okay to fight dictators 
like Saddam or the al Qaeda terrorists who want to take his place?" asks 
Thompson. "It turns out that the answer, according to Gandhi, is NEVER."

Gandhi apparently took the whole non-violence thing much too far. Instead of 
joining the British army to fight the Nazis in World War II, he continued 
his protests against British rule in India and got himself locked up in a 
British prison for two years. Thompson also points out that Gandhi even 
stuck to his principles when it came to the Holocaust. He believed that Jews 
in Germany should have committed suicide en masse because it "would have 
aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler's violence." It's a 
good thing Jews stuck to the plan they had instead of following Gandhi's 
advice, or a lot more of them would have died in the Holocaust.

"The so-called peace movement certainly has the right to make Gandhi's way 
their way, but their efforts to make collective suicide American foreign 
policy just won't cut it in this country," says Thompson. If Gandhi had his 
way the more than 3,000 soldiers who died in Iraq would have just killed 
themselves instead, which would have accomplished nothing. Liberals who 
oppose the War in Iraq apparently want our soldiers to stage sit-down 
strikes instead of military strikes. They think peaceful protests will make 
the terrorists cry uncle. Thompson doesn't share these liberals' simplistic 
views. He knows there are only two solutions to the situation in Iraq: 
victory or surrender.

Even George Bush has succumbed to this rampant Gandhi hero-worship, stopping 
at a shrine to Gandhi when he visited India last year to sign a treaty to 
help them develop nuclear weapons more efficiently by going around the silly 
Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, which will help make us safer. Maybe Bush 
didn't know how suicidally dangerous Gandhi's ideas are and was just being 
polite. Gandhi even wanted to make peace with Muslims, which wasn't any more 
successful then than it would be now.

Gandhi might be a hero to some people, but not to Fred Thompson. "When 
American's [sic] think of heroism, we think of the young American soldiers 
in Iraq and Afghanistan, risking their lives to prevent another Adolph 
Hitler or Saddam Hussein." By opposing the war in Iraq liberals are, like 
Gandhi, on the side of Hitler.

The time Fred Thompson spent in Hollywood has given him a better 
understanding than perhaps any other presidential candidate of those who 
want to destroy our country; that is, liberals. Having spent so much of his 
career working with liberals, Thompson has a sophisticated, nuanced view of 
liberalism and doesn't have to exaggerate to make the threat they represent 
apparent. By the way, it should come as no surprise that liberals in 
Hollywood once produced a movie about Gandhi, which made him out to be a 
hero, and even gave it an Oscar.

Thompson first learned of the maleficent influence of Gandhi and his 
un-American ideas back in the 1960s when he was a young lawyer in Tennessee. 
One of Gandhi's followers was Martin Luther King, who caused a great deal of 
havoc in Thompson's part of the country with all of his non-violent 
protests. King was in Tennessee fomenting trouble with striking garbage 
collectors when he was killed in 1968. Like one of King's adversaries in the 
Civil Rights movement, H. Rap Brown, who said "Violence is as American as 
cherry pie," Thompson knows that Gandhi's dangerous ideas about non-violence 
don't belong here. Thompson is opposed to gun control, as Brown no doubt 
was, and he voted against background checks at gun shows. Thompson also 
voted against a law restricting violent videos for minors, believing that 
our young people need to learn American values early.

Instead of running a "suicidal foreign policy" Thompson, who supported 
Bush's surge plan, would continue the very same foreign policy we have now. 
And not only will he not be turning the other cheek in response to 
terrorism, he will also bring good Christian values to the White House. 
Thompson opposes gay marriage and protecting gays from job discrimination 
and he voted against including sexual orientation in hate crime laws. 
Thompson's Christian compassion is especially notable in his passionate 
support of Scooter Libby, whose defense fund he sits on.

I don't know where Gandhi got all of his subversive ideas about 
non-violence, but they most certainly are not welcome in this country. We 
need a President like Fred Thompson who will support good-old American 
Christian values instead of un-American Gandhi values.



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