[PAA-Discuss] "Barack Obama Runs Rings Around John McCain" LOL

Fri Feb 29 10:43:37 EST 2008

Sorry Alyssa, you sent this directly to me, I think you meant to send it to
the PAA.  Yea and, at least he only said he was for killing another million
people instead of "being in Iraq for a hundred year."  At least!, Phew, so
glad I can sleep rest assured tonight knowing we're only going to be killing
anther 5 mil.

I just turned fifty, Jessica. I've been disappointed by the results of a
> helluva lot of elections in my lifetime. I no longer hope for the
> possibility of getting exactly what I want, I've seen too much in the way of
> mediocrity and illusion. I don't think our country has a lot of time left to
> be slogging through any more generations of conservative wingnuts. Obama is
> not a conservative wingnut. He's also not the first or the second choice of
> mine for this election season. But do I think he can make change in this
> country? Yes, I do.

Please, stress your age one more time, clearly the American society has
decided that as you age you can be ok without absolute BS.

P.s. I love how your stance changed from being against Ron Paul's stance of
NO AGGRESSIVE wars to be ok with Obama's.  I need to dig that e-mail up so I
can revel in the level of hypocrisy sent to the PAA list in the last 6
months.

Jessica

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Alyssa Burgin <aburgin4peace at gmail.com>
wrote:

> At least he didn't say we'd be in Iraq for a hundred years.
>
> That's not an endorsement, per se, just a statement of fact. I think when
> you're dealing with candidates, presidential or otherwise, you have to think
> about their ability to perceive what's going on . What's really going on. I
> think McCain is so blinded by the military background of his--three
> generations--that he could never perceive anything outside of that bubble.
> Obama is another matter. There's room in his brain for alternative opinions
> on things he may not have made up his mind on yet.
>
> No candidate governs as he has set himself out to be. In many cases,
> that's a bad thing. They often govern to the right. However, I've seen a
> couple of legislators who governed to the left, and I think that in this
> left-fearing electorate, there's room for a presidential candidate to govern
> to the left. At least when he's one who is smart enough to see left
> positions.
>
> As a young man, as a college and law student, Obama was far left of how he
> is presenting himself now. I know that from people who know him personally.
> I don't think that someone who is as left as I am is going to get elected
> from this electorate. Period. That's why I'm hoping that someone who
> presents a more moderate exterior to the electorate can welcome left
> opinions once he is in office, entertain left philosophy, and vote left.
>
> At the very least, he can influence the Supreme Court for decades. At the
> best, he can change America for the better (that wouldn't be hard).
>
> I just turned fifty, Jessica. I've been disappointed by the results of a
> helluva lot of elections in my lifetime. I no longer hope for the
> possibility of getting exactly what I want, I've seen too much in the way of
> mediocrity and illusion. I don't think our country has a lot of time left to
> be slogging through any more generations of conservative wingnuts. Obama is
> not a conservative wingnut. He's also not the first or the second choice of
> mine for this election season. But do I think he can make change in this
> country? Yes, I do.
>
> I want that more than anything.
>
> Alyssa
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Jessica Wilson <jlwilson684 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > my e-mail was in reference to Obama's warmongering comments as well, did
> > you hear those?
> > Jessica
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Alyssa Burgin <aburgin4peace at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Whoa, been on the road since yesterday, and today as part of a panel
> > > at St. Mary's University, so I know I've missed a lot.
> > >
> > > Part of my objection to this ridiculous conversation by McCain is that
> > > "al qaeda in Iraq" belongs in quotation marks. There is an Al-Qaeda in Iraq
> > > in the same way that everything that looks like a facial tissue is called a
> > > Kleenex--and it all hopes you'll identify it as a Kleenex. Except in this
> > > case, the propaganda arm of an entire government (ours) wants you to
> > > identify it as a Kleenex too, 'cause there's something in it for them.
> > >
> > > The longer we stay in Iraq, the more fuel (bad pun) we give so-called
> > > insurgents for their struggle. McCain is either dumb as a stick or he
> > > refuses to see that.
> > >
> > > Alyssa Burgin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Jessica Wilson <
> > > jlwilson684 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >  McCain is a moron, I think we can all agree on that.
> > > >
> > > > Yep, so "striking" al qaeda and continuing to bomb people is
> > > > definitely not pro-war, nope and I live in the 1984 world that Orwell
> > > > described, so well.  You DOT NO GO INTO A VILLAGE AND SET A FIRE *EVER!
> > > > THAT SOLVES NOTHING! *  Where are all of the people who understand
> > > > this?  Have you ever been into a neighborhood, home to a gang or 5???  Yes,
> > > > there are some people in the neighborhood that are bad, but you do not BOMB
> > > > AND ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD because there are a handful of "bad" people, who are
> > > > only BAD AND "TERRORISTS" (ahahah what a word) BECAUSE THEY'RE FUCKING
> > > > PISSED OFF BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN STEALING THEIR RESOURCES FOR OVER 100 YEARS!
> > > > Oh wow, again, I'm living in an alternate dimension.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O17bX5thLHY
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Every generation has the obligation to free men's minds for a look
> > > > at new worlds... to look out from a higher plateau than the last generation.
> > > >
> > > > -- Ellison S. Onizuka
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