[PAA-Discuss] FW: A response to your message to Obama for America

Lee Loe leeloe at igc.org
Tue Nov 25 18:26:00 EST 2008


So which am I, Massoud? Why must you name call? I thinnk we are all trying
to sort things out. I had seen Ali's comments and have seen many others. As
I explained, I feel that someone like Bill Thomson who has been a strong
supporter of the Palestinian cause is someone I should listen to, especially
since I know him personally. I value his in put. The same is true for
Waskow. I'll send you that. I think I am neither an apologist nor an
activist with illusions: some very knowledgeable and caring persons agree
with me on the 2 state solution. I think we must look to many areas to
inform our thinking on this a many other issues. I am particularly upset
that he has some folks who are with the Project for the American Century
among his advisors and that Norman Solomon, who was on one of the advising
groups, is disheartened. Lee Loe 

-----Original Message-----
From: Massoud [mailto:massoud1 at windstream.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:51 PM
To: Lee Loe
Cc: 'PAA'; 'David Atwood'; 'Rick Potthoff'; friends_of_kpft at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PAA-Discuss] FW: A response to your message to Obama for
America

There is a very thin line between an apologist and an activist with
illusion. Best is to be critical. In 2006, most people on this list didn't
know about Mr. Obama. So let see what a Palestinian like Ali Abunimah -the
co-founder of Electronic Intifada- has to say about Mr. Obama.

Ali Abunimah says: "I used to know Obama when he was my state senator. I met
him several times in different contexts, and he was often very progressive
about Israel-Palestine. He attended fundraisers in the Palestinian
community, one in which the keynote speaker was Edward Said. That's what
really made me believe in him at first. But then it all went out the window
when he started his climb up the greasy pole. I wrote about this a bit in
the book [One Country, an argument for a binational state in all of former
Palestine], and how disappointed I was to see him basically adopting AIPAC
positions. I went to see his legislative staffer in DC a couple of weeks ago
and left a signed copy of the book. I got an email, ostensibly from Obama (I
am sure people write these things for him), thanking me. Basically the guy
has calculated that pissing off the lobby is not the way to the top, so I
will eat my shoe (like Tucker Carlson) if he ever says anything remotely
useful about Palestine. He is a master triangulator."

Massoud


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Loe" <leeloe at igc.org>
To: "'PAA'" <discuss at paa-tx.org>; "'David Atwood'" <dpatwood at igc.org>;
"'Rick Potthoff'" <strangefriend at hotmail.com>;
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:25 PM
Subject: [PAA-Discuss] FW: A response to your message to Obama for America


> This was sent July 28. Check it out. Lee Loe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Obama for America Correspondence Team 
> [mailto:no-reply at barackobama.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:33 PM
> To: leeloe at igc.org
> Subject: A response to your message to Obama for America
>
> Dear Friend,
>
> Thank you for contacting me about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.  I 
> appreciate hearing from you on this important issue.
>
> I traveled to the Middle East in January 2006, where I met with both 
> Israeli and Palestinian leaders, as well as ordinary citizens in both 
> communities.
> This visit increased my understanding of the challenges that confront 
> the people who live in the region and our diplomatic efforts there, 
> but also my resolve to make a difference.
>
> The best solution to this difficult conflict is two states living 
> side-by-side in peace and security.  I believe the vast majority of 
> Israelis and Palestinians support this outcome.  What is needed is a 
> far more vigorous U.S. diplomatic effort to help them achieve it.  But 
> the current administration has sat on the sidelines for far too long.  
> As president, I would make a personal commitment to this effort.
>
> Israel is our closest ally in the Middle East, and we are obligated to 
> help ensure its security.  A negotiated peace with the Palestinians 
> would make Israel more secure and allow the Palestinians to achieve 
> their goal of an independent state.  We should be doing more to 
> strengthen Palestinian leaders who support a two-state solution, 
> isolate those who seek Israel's destruction, and help the two sides 
> reach negotiated solutions to all outstanding issues.
>
> An agreement that fulfills the legitimate aspirations of both the 
> Israeli and the Palestinian peoples is the only path to peace, and I will
continue
> to work toward this end.   Thank you again for contacting me on this 
> issue.
>
>                                                            Sincerely,
>
>                                                            Barack 
> Obama
>
>
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