[PAA-Discuss] wikileaks

[robert]

The Israeli propaganda front Wikipedia (founders Jimmy Wales, Larry Sanger
and senior editor David Miller, etc.) - had a preview of the new Wikileaks
files on the US-Turkish relations before they were made public on Sunday. 

As expected - the new secret revelations have no new information than what
we have already been told by the Zionist mainstream media. Benji Netanyahu
admitted that his government was already aware of the contents of the leaks.
On November 29, 2010 - Fox News boasted: "All in all, WikiLeaks did not
succeed in penetrating the most sensitive channels of U.S.-Israel
relations".

This proves once again that the new Wikileaks information, most probably
stolen by the agents of the powerful Israel Lobby (AIPAC) - and like the
previous one, is meant to isolate United States from the rest of the world
and create further division among Israel's neighboring countries - which
will make it more easy for the Zionist regime to control every US move. 

The confidential memo leaked by Wikipedia - articulates that Turkey foreign
policy (tilted towards its Islamic roots) has "Rolls Royce ambitions but
Rover resources." The authors like the Israeli leaders - are particularly
paranoid of Turkish Foreign Minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, for his personal
religious leanings and for guiding Turkish foreign policy towards the Middle
Eastern countries and Palestinian resistance - which the Zionist regime
considers pro-Iranian and anti-Israel. 

"Major challenges with us in the coming months include the direction of
Turkish-Israeli relations, the fate of the Protocols with Armenia, and the
Turkish posture vis-vis Iran," says the memo. 

The Wikileaks has claimed that Saudi Arabian King Abdullah had "repeatedly
urged United States to attack Iran's nuclear program" and China directed
cyberattacks on the United States. It has also claimed that the Rahbar
(Spiritual Leader) Ayatullah Ali Khamenei is suffering from cancer. The
Zionazi dogs had similar prediction about Imam Khomeini in the 1980s,
claiming that due to his advanced age he would not be able to stabilize the
Islamic Revolution.

Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, dismissed the documents as "worthless
mischief" which would not affect Tehran's relations with its Arab
neighbours, exposed as having pressed for a US military strike against its
nuclear sites.

According to Wikileaks, though Turkey is armed by the US - the great
majority of Turks have negative views of NATO. However, the authors suggest
that Turkey needs to accept the US and NATO's leadership (aka submission to
Israel) to extinguish fires in its backyard (Iraq, Afghanistan and
Pakistan).

"Even AKP leaders know that much of their allure or "wasta" in the Middle
East and elsewhere stems from their privileged position in key Western
clubs," says the document.

The authors acknowledge the AKP's impressive efforts to resolve Turkey's old
festering conflicts with Cyprus, Baghdad, Erbil and Syria. As result, Turkey
has gained leverage to tackle regional problems from Lebanon to Iran.
However, Turkey's "rapprochement with Syria has not really produced any
Syrian "flip" away from Iran"....


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By the way, did people know that only 609 or 250,000 cables have been
released so far!!


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  1. Re: [HoustonPF] RE: [guerrillatheatrebrigade] Ho Hum:     More
     Wikileaks "Chickenfeed" (Ron and Kris Graham)
  2. Re: Gilad on Wikileaks (Ron and Kris Graham)
  3. Re: Gilad on Wikileaks (robert)


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Subject: Re: [PAA-Discuss] [HoustonPF] RE: [guerrillatheatrebrigade] Ho Hum:
More Wikileaks "Chickenfeed"


>From the article: 

Would a real government that had any integrity and commitment to truth try
to blacken the name of the prime truth teller of our time on the basis of
such flimsy charges?

 

As I mentioned in a prior e-mail, Robert, either Julian Assange is a pawn of
the CIA and Mossad or he's a dupe who doesn't realize that he has opened up
a Pandora's Box and will have to be silenced. He'll have to hide for the
rest of his life if he is an innocent person and a true believer in the
truth and the American public's and the world's right to know. If there is
no blowback from the revelations of the cables and things proceed as usual
within the international community and here at home, then Assange can
probably go back to his life. I don't know, and frankly, I don't care. The
people in this country are screwed because they just can't be bothered to
overthrow this corrupt government and learn to think and act for themselves.
If the international community doesn't rise up and overthrow their
respective governments and then kick the shit out of Israel and the United
States, then so be it. Everybody will continue to be repressed, and we all
ought to just shut the hell up and learn to love being serfs.

 

Kris

 


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From: HoustonPF at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HoustonPF at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of robert
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:25 PM
To: guerrillatheatrebrigade at yahoogroups.com; 'PAA';
notinourname at yahoogroups.com
Cc: 'Bart Boyce'; 'Ken Freeland'; 'Julianne Gustafson-Lira'; 'HoustonPF';
'Eric Ribellarsi'
Subject: [HoustonPF] RE: [guerrillatheatrebrigade] Ho Hum: More Wikileaks
"Chickenfeed"

 

  

here is what Gilad is saying about Wikileaks:
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gilad-atzmon-a-surge-of-truth.html 

 

I agree........

 

I stayed up last night and watched Charlie Rose interviewing TIME mag guy
who had interviewed Assange for 35min and was startled by his response that
justified the leaks as dangerous but necessary and afterall it let Israel
completely off the hook and confirmed that "everyone" in the middleeast
wanted US to bomb Iran.  Next was an ex Admiral who thought Assange should
be stopped......and I thought.......what a perfect set up having the
government (hacks like Clinton etc) say that they hate Wikileaks so we will
embrace everything that is leaked as the truth.

 

and here is another confirmation of what Kris and I suspect is going on
here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va
<http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=22213> &aid=22213
Wikileaks: A Government Caught Up in Mendacity and Lies

 


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Cc: 'Bart Boyce'; 'Ken Freeland'; 'Julianne Gustafson-Lira'; 'HoustonPF';
Eric Ribellarsi
Subject: [guerrillatheatrebrigade] Ho Hum: More Wikileaks "Chickenfeed"

  

Has no one noticed that Israel comes out smelling like a rose from these
Wikileaks? Has no one noticed that Israel appears vindicated in its call for
bombing Iran into the Stone Age? Has no one noticed these Wikileaks cables
don't tell anybody much of anything that he or she did not already know or
suspect unless he or she was living in a cave? Who is Wikileaks? Who is
Julian Assange and what is his angle? No one seems to know where he is.
Assange is probably hanging out in CIA headquarters in Langley, VA or holed
up in Israel somewhere blowing Binyamin Netanyahu. Has no one noticed that a
lot of these cables give justification for bombing Iran because Saudi Arabia
and some other unnamed Arab states supposedly feel threatened by Iran?
Bullshit!!! A poll was taken in the Middle East and 80% of Arab people feel
ISRAEL is the #1 threat to the region followed by 77% thinking the U.S. is
the second biggest threat. Only 10% of Arabs felt like Iran was the major
threat. That information was reported by Noam Chomsky on Democracy NOW by
the way.  The dictators in the various Arab countries want the United States
or Israel to bomb Iran. Even if Iran did have a nuclear weapon, who the fuck
cares?! The United States is sitting on a stockpile of nuclear weapons!! So
are Israel, Great Britain, India, China, France, Pakistan, and North
Korea!!! What hypocrisy!! Is it any surprise that members of the State
Department and others call the leaders in other countries names and speak
disparagingly about them? This is not news.

These cables show the United States government for what it is and that is a
chicken shit failed imperial superpower with a god complex. That's not
fucking news, people!! Has anybody been paying attention or has everybody's
head been up their collective asses?! Maybe the American people are so
fucking uninformed and brainwashed that they think these cables are news! I
suppose when one listens to the MSM all day and reads the rag newspapers and
spends all his or her time working, shopping, drinking beer or fucking then
these Wikileaks cables are news. Of course, the fucking MSM is bought and
paid for! They know who they serve and it sure as hell isn't the American
public. Of course, the information from the cables was cherry picked by the
U.S. media! Is that surprising? Of course not, if you've been paying
attention.

I'm with Gordon Duff. I think Wikileaks is a CIA/Mossad tool. Why do we not
read any cables about 9/11 which was the catalyst for all the
unconstitutional and illegal shit that has followed?! Has anybody other than
Robert Graham inquired about that?! I noticed that nobody even answered
Robert's e-mail about that little fact. The U.S. government needed its new
"Pearl Harbor" so they could start endless wars and build WMD 'til the cows
come home and they damned well got their new Pearl Harbor. Why the majority
of people in the United States seem to care little for that and seem willing
to put 9/11 to bed and just accept the bogus 9/11 Commission report (cover
up) is beyond me. The old canard, "My country right or wrong" must be to
blame. People just don't want to think. They must want to be told what to
do, when to do it, how to do it and where to do it.  The majority of the
American people are zombies.

Kris

Ho Hum: More Wikileaks "Chickenfeed"

By Gordon Duff

Global Research <http://www.globalresearch.ca> , December 1, 2010

Veterans Today <http://veteranstoday.com>  

The new Wikileaks claims the US undereported by 15,000, the deaths of Iraqi
"civilians."  With the numbers listed by the military as little as 10% or
less of the actual deaths, bumping up the numbers must be a joke.  More
leaks about torture and killings, Iraqi torture and the US "looking away?"
More idiocy.  With the US sending "suspects" around the world on rendition
flights, sent to secret prisons and obvious to anyone with a brain, to
shallow graves, this Wikileak is simply another sideshow, more
"chickenfeed."

Things have already come apart in Iraq.  Why leak this now?  Regular news
stories are actually going much further than these "leaks."  It doesn't take
a rocket scientist to see the agenda here, an agenda with absolutely nothing
to do with enlightening the world.

What does it prove, any of it?  For sure, we see one thing.  Everything
leaked is carefully screened to have nothing of real value.  With Mossad
running around Mosul, operating out of Erbil, supplying and advising the
terrorist PKK, not a word is mentioned.  Instead, poor Iranians are swimming
the Euphrates with explosives strapped to their chests.

Get real.

Thousands of tons of explosives were "mislaid" in Iraq.  The US failed to
secure Saddam's weapons depots which were looted.  These stockpiles were
vast.  The idea that anyone would need to bring weapons into Iraq is insane,
simply another Israeli ploy to pre-stage an attack on Iran.  Any fool can
see this in seconds.


In fact, there are more assault rifles in Iraq than people.


While trying to blame Iran, is Wikileaks reporting the hundreds of thousands
of weapons bought by the US that simply disappeared in Iraq?  It is easier
to buy an assault rifle or RPG in Iraq than to get potato chips.  This need
to blame Iran, the idea that "secret agents" are smuggling ordnance into
Iraq, a country loaded with explosives, is insane.  Who would believe it?
The idiotic controlled press?

What will we see if we watch the stories coming out?  Where will the press
be told to manipulate the public to look?

THE LIES BEGIN.


 
<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-23/pentagon-documents-show-u-s-ignore
d-torture-abuse-reports-guardian-says.html> "Iran's Training for Iraqi
Militants Outlined in Leaked Pentagon Documents"


Bloomberg and The Guardian start the ball rolling.  Imagine Iraq, a country
with the 3rd largest military force in the world, needing "trainers" from
Iran.  Iran with its elite Republican Guard and one million man army has
more people with military training that Britain, a fact The Guardian seems
oblivious to.  One minute, Iraq is building nuclear weapons and threatening
the region with SCUD missiles, the next it is having to turn to "Iranian
experts" to build pipe bombs.  Has any nation ever suffered such a case of
collective amnesia in the area of weapons technology before?

As the days pass, we can expect more and more fanciful accounts of Iranian
spies, trainers, kidnappers and terrorists, each story more sensational and
fictitious than the last.

There is a more insidious aspect to Wikileaks.  Through representing itself
as "anti-war" and "public spirited," it carries forward a globalist agenda,
promoting war, promoting regional strife, coincidentally all directly tied
to Israel's "hit list," the nations Israel openly advocates someone else
destroys.

One could easily describe Wikileaks as a Mossad PsyOp.

Thus, Wikileaks is very effective in derailing genuine dialog and meaningful
dissent.

ATTORNEY GENERAL GONZALES TOLD US TORTURE WAS GOOD FOR US

Americans proved long ago that they were immune to guilt about torture and
killing.  In fact, polls show that the more religious an American, the more
willing they are to accept brutality, and few countries are as "religious'
as America.  No other country in recent times has killed as many people as
America, even overshadowing the ethnic cleansing in Rwanda and Bosnia or the
"situation" in Israel.

As with the earlier "leak," Wikileaks has the ability to go through hundreds
of thousands of pages of documents, carefully eliminating any blackmarket
dealings, drug running or, as with Iraq, the massive corruption and theft of
oil.


There are dozens of subjects that seem to be carefully screened from any
Wikileak.  Even the Department of Defense, not so secretly, thanks Wikileaks
for holding back really embarrassing information.  "Held back" information
is, of course, blackmail.


Who is Wikileaks?


Is Wikileaks Israel?


Only Israel has the penetration of the Department of Defense that would
allow this kind of spying.  Not only can they do it, they also have so many
spies in the American chain of command, they could easily prevent it.  Who
has the facilities to gather and filter this much data?  Who would want to?

With the biggest story in Iraq the falsified intelligence on "weapons of
mass destruction," why didn't Wikileaks get us documents on this?  We know
that the military had orders to try to falsify documents showing that they
found fully operating nuclear, biological and chemical warfare facilities.
These would have made good reading along with the thousands of pages of
reports about how these stories would be fabricated.  Even the "controlled
press" wouldn't touch them although they are still out there.

The lies.

Exposing this real Iraq scandal would do some good, except for one thing,
friends of Israel inside the Pentagon were the creators of this program.  Is
this why Wikileaks dodges the real issues?  Is it because the trail for much
of what happened in Iraq heads directly to Tel Aviv?

Who even cares about Iraq this many years later?

Look at the watered down reports about American support of Al Qaeda.  The US
is blamed for accidentally helping Al Qaeda by organizing the Sons of Iraq.
In truth, the US actually reorganized the Baathists, something far worse
than the imaginary construct "Al Qaeda."  Not a word is said about this.

One of the biggest scams of the Iraq "experience" was the looting of oil
resources.  Most easily verified is the theft of oil from the Kirkuk fields
through the Kirkuk/Ceyhan pipeline, which goes to the Mediterranean through
Turkey.  Ships that load oil are shown on locator sights run by insurance
companies and even the US Coast Guard.  Their tonnage is available, how many
ships, how long.  When doing the math, how much oil is loaded compared to
how much is paid for, billions and billions of dollars of oil is missing.

When Americans were paying $4 a gallon for gas, how many knew the oil that
made the gasoline was "free" to the oil companies?  Who spit the take on
this?  Who was paid?  How much was stolen through Basra?  Were the British
involved?

Then we have Fallujah.  We are told America "carpet bombed" civilians and
"ethnically cleansed" the area, as we are now informed, for no reason.  The
version the Army told is being debunked along with the phony stories of the
"embedded" press.  Nothing on this hit Wikileaks either.

We are also noting high levels of radiation
<http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/15/38-hiroshimas-hidden-how%e2%80%99d-
the-army-do-that/>  there and a health crisis that can only be described as
shocking.  Where is Wikileaks on this REAL story?

There is little doubt that Wikileaks is a "sideshow' run by an intelligence
agency with dozens of agents inside the Department of Defense.  Only Israel
has this capability, having penetrated Defense to such a degree they run it
as their own.  What is the agenda of Wikileaks?  Is it revealing the truth?
If so, why is the truth censored and watered down to such a degree as to be
"non-news" as the earlier leak had been.  In fact, most stories about leaks
are simply speculation and most "leaks" are little than "chickenfeed."

The last leak was an attack on Pakistan.  Wikileaks tried to make a case for
Pakistan running the Taliban in Afghanistan.  However, the Taliban are
Pashtun and don't care much for Pakistan, they are "blood enemies."  Because
of this, Israel and India have found them useful allies against Pakistan,
the only Islamic nuclear power.  Aid of all kinds gets to the Taliban from
the Mossad and RAW, something Wikileaks worked hard to keep secret.


Real leaks by former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds proved that documents
exist showing that rendition flights were used to ferry terrorists around,
move drugs and tons of cash.  With bales of cash leaving Afghanistan every
day, why is it that not one page, not one word of any of this, things we
know are in American files, hit Wikileaks?


Why does Wikileaks spend more time hiding things than revealing them?  When
the story dies down, are the Julian Assange rape allegations going to be
dragged out again to give the story more play?  Last time they "double
dipped" on that one, first charges, then no charges, then charges.  It was
like a badly written "soap opera."  We have just received reports of Julian
Assange fleeing Pentagon death squads.  We are told he has virtually
disappeared off the face of the planet.  We also have a schedule of public
appearances and interviews for Assange, who will mysteriously re-materialize
when needed.  Ah, to have powers such as those.

What about this new "leak?"

This one may be aimed at Iran.

Anyone surprised or shocked to find that Iraqi security forces killed or
tortured people is living on their own private planet.  These were Saddam's
killers and torturers first.  Then they became ours.  What do killers and
torturers do?

There was one reason for the invasion of Iraq with all the lies, all the
killing, all the corruption.  Israel wanted Iraq destroyed.  Will Wikileaks
ever get to something real?


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C Copyright Gordon Duff, Veterans Today <http://veteranstoday.com> , 2010 

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From: "Ron and Kris Graham" <graham2639 at mindspring.com>
To: "'Bart Boyce'" <bartboyce at sbcglobal.net>, "'PAA'" <discuss at paa-tx.org>,
"'robert'" <gram.graham at sbcglobal.net>, "'nojustice nopeace'"
<nojusticenopeace at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 00:46:33 -0600
Subject: Re: [PAA-Discuss] Gilad on Wikileaks


People can share and cooperate, Bart but the state and all its agencies have
to be smashed. Capitalism has to be smashed. We don't need a government. We
don't need a state. We don't need laws. We don't need leaders. We don't need
rulers. We need the freedom to make our own decisions and control our own
lives. We need the confidence and the courage to walk away from everything
we've been brainwashed into believing and start anew. Before we can do that,
though, the entire capitalist system and the state must be abolished. All
governments are illegal and immoral and must be abolished internationally.
The state is a fictitious construct. People must be free. Until this
happens, absolutely nothing will change and the whole world will continue to
exist in bondage. 

 

Kris

 


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From: Bart Boyce [mailto:bartboyce at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:37 PM
To: 'PAA'; robert; nojustice nopeace; Kris and Ron Graham
Cc: 'HoustonPF'; PAA; 'Julianne Gustafson-Lira'; 'Eric Ribellarsi'; Mahmoud
Aburizeq
Subject: [PAA-Discuss] Gilad on Wikileaks

 



this is also what Gilad is saying about Wikileaks to al-jazeera ...

 

http://www.aljazeerah.info/News/2010/November/30%20n/Israeli%20Mossad%20Behi
nd%20Iranian%20Street%20Riots%20and%20Terrorist%20Attacks,%20as%20WikiLeaks%
20Document%20Suggests.htm

 

Sure does seem like US is pissed at Assagne ....

   maybe not like Israel ..... hmmmm ....

spin/counter-spin/spy v.spy v.spy ....

  why can't people just STOP KILLING ONE ANOTHER

        and share the bounty of the earth ?

b

 



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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 00:58:53 -0600
Subject: Re: [PAA-Discuss] Gilad on Wikileaks

 if you want to be free...........we must free ourselves..........right now
we are all serfs.........and these are the entity that own us:  

Who Owns You? 
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forms state that they are Department of the Treasury forms. You can get a
copy of the SS5 you filled out by sending form SSA-L996 to the SS
Administration. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2) Read the
cites above) 

8. There are no Judicial courts in America and there has not been since
1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators
enforce Statutes and Codes. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428,
1 Stat. 138-178) 

9. There have not been any Judges in America since 1789. There have just
been Administrators. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1Stat.
138-178) 

10. According to the GATT you must have a Social Security number. House
Report (103-826) 

11. We have One World Government, One World Law and a One World Monetary
System.  <http://www.illuminati-news.com/072206c.htm#1> * 

12. The UN is a One World Super Government.
<http://www.illuminati-news.com/072206c.htm#1> * 

13. No one on this planet has ever been free. This planet is a Slave Colony.
There has always been a One World Government. It is just that now it is much
better organized and has changed its name as of 1945 to the United Nations.
<http://www.illuminati-news.com/072206c.htm#1> * 

14. New York City is defined in the Federal Regulations as the United
Nations. Rudolph Gulliani stated on C-Span that "New York City was the
capital of the World" and he was correct. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B
422.103 (b) (2) (2) 

15. Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust
Fund. (Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619, Steward Co. V. Davis 301 US 548.) 

16. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF which is an
Agency of the UN. (Look at it if you receive one. It should have written on
the top left United States Treasury.) 

17. You own no property, slaves can't own property. Read the Deed to the
property that you think is yours. You are listed as a Tenant. (Senate
Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session) 

18. The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme
Court but, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 Pa.C.S.A. 502) 

19. The Revolutionary War was a fraud. See (22, 23 and 24) 

20. The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary
war. (Treaty at Versailles July 16, 1782, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80) 

21. You can not use the Constitution to defend yourself because you are not
a party to it. (Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor and Alderman of The City of
Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520) 

22. America is a British Colony. (THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A
LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS
DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796.) Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of
Commerce 8 Stat 116, The Society for Propagating the Gospel, &c. V. New
Haven 8 Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles
of Association October 20, 1774.) 

23. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213) 
 


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From: Ron and Kris Graham [mailto:graham2639 at mindspring.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:47 AM
To: 'Bart Boyce'; 'PAA'; 'robert'; 'nojustice nopeace'
Cc: 'HoustonPF'; 'PAA'; 'Julianne Gustafson-Lira'; 'Eric Ribellarsi';
'Mahmoud Aburizeq'
Subject: RE: [PAA-Discuss] Gilad on Wikileaks



People can share and cooperate, Bart but the state and all its agencies have
to be smashed. Capitalism has to be smashed. We don't need a government. We
don't need a state. We don't need laws. We don't need leaders. We don't need
rulers. We need the freedom to make our own decisions and control our own
lives. We need the confidence and the courage to walk away from everything
we've been brainwashed into believing and start anew. Before we can do that,
though, the entire capitalist system and the state must be abolished. All
governments are illegal and immoral and must be abolished internationally.
The state is a fictitious construct. People must be free. Until this
happens, absolutely nothing will change and the whole world will continue to
exist in bondage. 

 

Kris

 


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From: Bart Boyce [mailto:bartboyce at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:37 PM
To: 'PAA'; robert; nojustice nopeace; Kris and Ron Graham
Cc: 'HoustonPF'; PAA; 'Julianne Gustafson-Lira'; 'Eric Ribellarsi'; Mahmoud
Aburizeq
Subject: [PAA-Discuss] Gilad on Wikileaks

 



this is also what Gilad is saying about Wikileaks to al-jazeera ...

 

http://www.aljazeerah.info/News/2010/November/30%20n/Israeli%20Mossad%20Behi
nd%20Iranian%20Street%20Riots%20and%20Terrorist%20Attacks,%20as%20WikiLeaks%
20Document%20Suggests.htm

 

Sure does seem like US is pissed at Assagne ....

   maybe not like Israel ..... hmmmm ....

spin/counter-spin/spy v.spy v.spy ....

  why can't people just STOP KILLING ONE ANOTHER

        and share the bounty of the earth ?

b

 

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