[PAA-Discuss] 3 articles on Wikileaks
Massoud
massoud1 at windstream.net
Fri Dec 10 14:18:56 EST 2010
My answers in black.
From: robert [mailto:gram.graham at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 11:52 AM
To: 'Massoud'
Cc: 'PAA DiscussHouston'
Subject: RE: [PAA-Discuss] 3 articles on Wikileaks
massoud,
the light yellowish color happens every time I cut and paste an article from
www.thetruthseekers.co.uk ever since they were attacked and changed their
format.......they use to have a printer friendly version.
The solution is easy. Highlight the text and change the color to black or
any other dark color in your e-mail before you send it.
I included the footnotes because they included them in the controversial
article.
I understand what you did, but were those notes understandable to you?
I believe that is my job to post the controversial. So as not to be
hoodwinked by miscreants,uninformed or gullible.
Yes, but if the source is not creditable then you are doing opposite of your
intention. That is the difference between a copy machine and an intelligent
thinker and truth seeker.
I don't know about our relationship ever since you accused me of not having
the Palestinian interests first..........that is slavery to me. I am not
Palestinian...........I just see the injustice as an injustice to me and my
community
Well, I'm not Palestinian either but that is not the question. I'm very
careful with my writing. Can you send me a copy of what I've supposedly
"accused" of? I haven't accuse you of anything.
Take care.
Your friend
Massoud
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From: Massoud [mailto:massoud1 at windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 11:31 AM
To: 'robert'
Cc: 'PAA DiscussHouston'
Subject: RE: [PAA-Discuss] 3 articles on Wikileaks
Dear Robert,
A friendly suggestion: you should double check your facts before you send
out e-mails like this. The footnotes in any serious document are very
important. If someone claims for example that person X has stolen money from
person Y, then she or he needs to show some kind of document or evidence to
prove that. Now if the accusation is written in English and the proofs are
in another language, then how anyone can read and believe those documents?
The notes that you have sent some are in Arabic and German! Do you know
Arabic and German? My point has nothing to do with Wikileakes or Julian
Assange. As I've suggested before we should read the actual Cables and don't
waste too much time on other matters that we don't have all the information.
So I hope you understand, this is not about you or Wikileaks. I'm just
simply asking everyone to please don't act like a copy machine on the
internet. Research and inform us of the most valuable information that you
find which have merit and are not questionable.
I can't read Arabic or German, so I really don't see any value in something
that is in Arabic from a reporter that claims Assange has met Israeli
agents. That is like Fox News type of story.
Massoud
* I'm sorry, I hope you don't get this personally.. we are still friends .
right?! . And what's up with the light yellowish color font that you are
using? Are you trying to make us go BLIND! J
From: discuss-bounces at paa-tx.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at paa-tx.org] On
Behalf Of robert
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:15 PM
To: 'Lee Loe'; 'PAA DiscussHouston'
Subject: Re: [PAA-Discuss] 3 articles on Wikileaks
<http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=15770> WikiLeaks 'struck a deal with
Israel' over diplomatic cables leaks
By <http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?author=1> wmw_admin on December 9,
2010
by LikiWeaks - Indybay.org December 7, 2010
We should obviously all support WikiLeaks and its founder and spokesperson,
Julian Assange, who has just been arrested in Britain, in this dirty war by
states around the globe against transparency and openness. But in the world
of politics, sadly, things are never as innocent as they appear. According
to new revelations, Assange had allegedly struck a deal with Israel before
the recent 'cable gate', which may explain why the leaks "were good for
Israel," as the Israeli prime minister put it.
A number of commentators, particularly in Turkey and Russia, have been
wondering why the hundreds of thousands of American classified documents
leaked by the website last month did not contain anything that may embarrass
the Israeli government, like just about every other state referred to in the
documents. The answer appears to be a secret deal struck between the
WikiLeaks "heart and soul", as Assange humbly described himself once [1],
with Israeli officials, which ensured that all such documents were 'removed'
before the rest were made public.
According to an Arabic investigative journalism website [2], Assange had
received money from semi-official Israeli sources and promised them, in a
"secret, video-recorded agreement," not to publish any document that may
harm Israeli security or diplomatic interests.
The sources of the Al-Haqiqa report are said to be former WikiLeaks
volunteers who have left the organisation in the last few months over
Assange's "autocratic leadership" and "lack of transparency."
In a recent interview with the German daily Die Tageszeitung, former
WikiLeaks spokesperson Daniel Domscheit-Berg said he and other WikiLeaks
dissidents are planning to launch their own whistleblowers' platform to
fulfil WikiLeaks's original aim of "limitless file sharing." [3]
Mr Domscheit-Berg, who is about to publish a book about his days 'Inside
WikiLeaks', accuses Assange of acting as a "king" against the will of others
in the organisation by "making deals" with media organisations that are
meant to create an explosive effect, which others in WikiLeaks either know
little or nothing about. [4]
Furthermore, Assange's eagerness for headline-grabbing scoops meant that
WikiLeaks had not been able to 'restructure' itself to cope with this surge
of interest, insiders add. This has meant that smaller leaks, which might be
of interest to people at a local level, are now being overlooked for the
sake of big stories. [5]
According to the Al-Haqiqa sources, Assange met with Israeli officials in
Geneva earlier this year and struck the secret deal. The Israel government,
it seems, had somehow found out or expected that the documents to be leaked
contained a large number of documents about the Israeli attacks on Lebanon
and Gaza in 2006 and 2008-9 respectively. These documents, which are said to
have originated mainly from the Israeli embassies in Tel Aviv and Beirut,
where removed and possibly destroyed by Assange, who is the only person who
knows the password that can open these documents, the sources added.
Indeed, the published documents seem to have a 'gap' stretching over the
period of July - September 2006, during which the 33-day Lebanon war took
place. Is it possible that US diplomats and officials did not have any
comments or information to exchange about this crucial event but spent their
time 'gossiping' about every other 'trivial' Middle-Eastern matter?
Following the leak (and even before), Israeli prime minister Benjamin
Netanyahu said in a press conference that Israel had "worked in advance" to
limit any damage from leaks, adding that "no classified Israeli material was
exposed by WikiLeaks." [6] In an interview with the Time magazine around the
same time, Assange praised Netanyahu as a hero of transparency and openness!
[7]
According to another report [8], a left-leaning Lebanese newspaper had met
with Assange twice and tried to negotiate a deal with him, offering "a big
amount of money", in order to get hold of documents concerning the 2006 war,
particularly the minutes of a meeting held at the American embassy in Beirut
on 24th July 2006, which is widely considered as a 'war council' meeting
between American, Israeli and Lebanese parties that played a role in the war
again Hizbullah and its allies. The documents the Al-Akhbar editors
received, however, all date to 2008 onwards and do not contain "anything of
value," the sources confirm. This only goes to support the Israel deal
allegations.
Finally, it might be worth pointing out that Assange might have done what he
is alleged to have done in order protect himself and ensure that the leaked
documents are published so as to expose the American hypocrisy, which he is
said to be obsessed with "at the expense of more fundamental aims."
Notes:
[1] <http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/09/wikileaks-revolt/>
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/09/wikileaks-revolt/
[2] <http://www.syriatruth.info/content/view/977/36/>
http://www.syriatruth.info/content/view/977/36/
[3]
<http://www.taz.de/1/netz/netzpolitik/artikel/1/vom-hacker-zum-popstar/>
http://www.taz.de/1/netz/netzpolitik/artikel/1/vom-hacker-zum-popstar/
[4] <http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,732212,00.html>
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,732212,00.html
[5] <http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,719619,00.html>
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,719619,00.html
[6]
<http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/netanyahu-wikileaks-revelations-w
ere-good-for-israel-1.327773>
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/netanyahu-wikileaks-revelations-we
re-good-for-israel-1.327773
[7] <http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2034040-2,00.html>
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2034040-2,00.html
[8] <http://www.syriatruth.info/content/view/986/36/>
http://www.syriatruth.info/content/view/986/36/
<http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/12/07/18665978.php> Source
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From: Lee Loe [mailto:leeloe at igc.org]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:00 PM
To: 'PAA DiscussHouston'
Subject: 3 articles on Wikileaks
Guardian: Wikileaks under attack: timeline
The Guardian tallies attacks on Wikileaks from governments and corporations.
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=SK%2BWHhZkebFsCj%2Fx
1nk0UuULnma6KDgG>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/07/wikileaks-under-attack-definitiv
e-timeline
CounterSpin: WikiLeaks and the Coup in Honduras
One story hasn't received enough media attention: how the U.S. embassy
really saw the 2009 coup in Honduras. How did this cable conflict with
official U.S. pronouncements and corporate media spin? Counterspin talks to
Just Foreign Policy.
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=xR%2FMX0mlSPS9W4XjHO
9Q1eULnma6KDgG> http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=4208
*Action: Courage to Resist: Support Bradley Manning
Army intelligence analyst Manning faces decades in prison, and is being held
in solitary confinement, without even visits from family, for allegedly
leaking US government documents. Courage to Resist is circulating a
statement of support for Bradley Manning.
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=r%2BBWH0fNy7aX%2FMJv
C7lKMuULnma6KDgG> http://standwithbrad.org/
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