[PAA-Discuss] [MANDELL] 'Iran will hit Dimona if attacked'
Bart Boyce
bartboyce at sbcglobal.net
Wed Sep 1 21:10:39 EDT 2010
Peace Greg .
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From: robert <gram.graham at sbcglobal.net>
To: MANDELL at yahoogroups.com
Cc: graham2639 at mindspring.com
Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 4:04:50 PM
Subject: FW: [MANDELL] 'Iran will hit Dimona if attacked'
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From: Greg M. Graham [mailto:gregmgraham at att.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 3:54 PM
To: robert
Subject: Re: [MANDELL] 'Iran will hit Dimona if attacked'
Robert,
Bart said "it isn't necessary to attack people is it ? Really ?" Just another
Fucking Gandhi wantabe is what he sounds like there. Try that shit on the
zionist idf or aipac and just see where that gets a neo-Gandhi nowdays (ie.
Rachal Corrie and so many others). Now that is STYLING bart!!! And I would
ask him also how that is actually working for him and the existential cause at
hand? And I will not accept an answer that is social net-working oriented
because that is the epitomy of a truely shallow person saying it is about how
they FEEL. Do they feel good? How do their "friends" feel? What damn
difference does that make in the REAL world? Hardly any, unless "everything
and everyone else is just a figment of their imagination" and feeling good is
the only thing important to them.
When and who began the "attacking" and if it was not you, as I believe, then
what did bart have to say about the beginning of such social action. Where was
his Gandhiesque wisdom at work then? He should see that once the friction
begins in the group dynamic then it is almost impossible to stop. Then we
should just LIVE WITH IT like MEN. People should be angry and express
themselves with passion, but never lose sight of the real mission we have
undertaken. We should never allow anyone to neuter us emotionally or do that
to ourselves. Because if we do then we will not have the passion to do what
ever it takes to counter the evil at hand.
GOD bless Palestine, but I feel the REAL PROBLEM is right here in the good ol
usa and that is where the social action focus must be. Stop the jews and tories
here!!!!
That is the only place where we will have any chance of making a change for the
better. By getting the GOYIM A N G R Y enough to protect their own damn
interests!!!
Or is there someone out there in mandell land that actually thinks for a moment
that the jews there in israel will actually listen to the Goyim from
amerika???? Really???
Would they give a damn what Gandhi himself actually would say? I do not think
so. They surely did not listen to the CHRIST Jesus. Thus the action must
center in the usa and be focused upon the GOYIM here that are not awake to what
is actually happening to them and theirs. So I feel that truth and justice
for Palestine is fine, but it should always be subordinate to the WAR OF
DECEPTION being waged by various enities against our children's and their
children's nation.
So go ahead and give the "Sacks a Shit" a broadside, it will be good for them
and good for the real problem at hand!! We should all leard to take it like a
MAN. There is the possibility that you just might make a man out of them where
there was just men before. You know get them to stand up on their hind legs
for a change.
GOD ALMIGHTY LET US "IMPEACH OBOMBA" and his MINIONS !!!
Gm Graham
----- Original Message -----
>From: robert
>To: MANDELL at yahoogroups.com
>Cc: Ahmad Solomon ; Arnoldo Hernandez ; Greg M. Graham ; Hasan Dabbouseh ;
>janet dejohn ; Jon Axford ; Joseph Prevo ; Ron and Kris Graham ; Tony
>Alvarez ; Zhaleh Sahand
>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:30 PM
>Subject: FW: [MANDELL] 'Iran will hit Dimona if attacked'
>
>
>
>
>
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From: MANDELL at yahoogroups.com [mailto:MANDELL at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
robert
>Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:17 AM
>To: 'Bart Boyce'; MANDELL at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [MANDELL] 'Iran will hit Dimona if attacked'
>
>
>group et al,
>
>I use to be out there for the friendship till I brought out a sign that
>someone did not like........and then there was the meeting with a
>vote........11 with 1 abstention.......friends don't do that.....do they?
>Ira would be a better friend.........least I know where he stands. He is not
>a fraud.
>
>next time why don't you test these "friends" and bring out a sign that says
>something controversial rather than that old plastic peace sign that I gave
>you. I guess that is the point........we are all lovely dovey when we all
>agree/agreeable with each other(mob) but soon as somebody goes outside the
>box then that is the test.
>
>look........we need to learn something from all this dissension..........we
>need to understand what it takes to co operate........and what that means for
>me is to be with someone who cares what I have to express......and if that is
>violated in any way I get hurt feelings and these are not my friends.
>
>let us not forget that it was Bob Carter who attacked me and my sign.......he
>actually convinced you and the others to pick up their signs and
>leave........would not even stand on the same bridge with me........you
>stayed for 15 minutes and then you cowardly slept off to join them on the
>Montrose bridge. So, your Mon's clichéd codependent recipe doesn't work
>here.........it does bring up something for me that when I was in Japan in
>1980 I was with a group of Japanese artist and we were at a crowded Sushi bar
>and I accidentally spilled my beer onto my friend setting next to me and then
>he returned the favor by spilling beer on me telling me that I would feel
>better because we would be the same. And I did feel better because I would
>not be feeling guilty.
>
>Don Cook? this is the guy who threatened to "throw me off the bridge" when I
>was interviewing Ira........and you were standing right there and everyone
>saw the YouTube........and yet that is okay? Not my friend.....I don't even
>want to know this guy.......and remember this is the guy why I am not
>involved with the PAA anymore when he challenged Ted Weisgal to a fist fight
>at the last meeting I will ever attend......some friend?
>
>Gloria? What a lying sack of shit when she totally lied through her teeth
>about the black woman bus driver that I told to "get back on the bus and do
>your fucking job and drive us home"........I appropriately used the f word
>and why did Gloria bring this event up after 6 years? What? am I just
>suppose to let her lie about me and what happen? Why? What does she have
>against white males? Is she capable of being my friend? Do you think she
>is your friend?
>
>Ken Freeland.........who hasn't he gone off on? Run off more people than he
>has brought together.......another your his friend as long as you totally
>agree with him and let him do all the talking.
>
>Nebeil........wasn't he the guy who called me to make sure I was going to
>come to the meeting I did not want to come to because I knew it was going to
>be a trial about my sign
>
>Massoud.....never know which side he is on
>
>Beth........don't know who she is.........all I know is that she and
>boyfriend quickly turned and ran when they saw my (IMPEACH OBOMBA WAR CRIMES)
>sign. They seemed to be looking for the others.
>
>Greg Johnson..........clinically insane..........actually believes that NO
>planes hit the World Trade Center and when challenged removed everyone from
>the group that did not agree with him........and when he accused me of being
>a criminal in front of Shelby at a Palestinian protest in front of the
>Israeli consul and lied to you that he would apologize to Shelby
>......demonstrated what kind of idiot he is.
>
>Julie..........has not forgiven me for defending Zhaleh on a free speech
>issue........god this is so juvenile! I dare criticize for someone (Julie)
>removing Zhaleh's pamphlets(sign-expression) from the table she was
>collecting donations for an event (movie) that Julie was to speak. And now
>or soon after Zhaleh hates me too.......she mistakenly thought that I
>defended her that I must be a communist too......NOT. It was just the
>principle I was defending.........that she had a right to express herself
>anyway she wants to.........I thought (mistakenly) she was part of this
>group.
>
>Nicida......... needs to be loved and wants to avoid
>controversy..........when she said something at the trial/meeting about my
>sign........she brought up from my resume that I had worked at the Jewish
>Community Center.......suggesting that I should have turned down the
>opportunity to practice my profession.
>
>I just noticed that you did not include Ron and Kris on your
>list......why?........it also did not go unnoticed that Bob overlooked them
>when it came time for the trial.........they used to be out there all the
>time.......it was Kris and I and Massoud that were having a conversation about
>the making of the "OBOMBA" sign and were agreed upon.........that's right
>.....Massoud was not at the trial too. go figure
>
>Edwin.......nice man......means well
>
>Ester King........knows what is going on
>
>Jimmy Schriver...... supportive.......has the most comments on my YouTube
>site.....because of the controversy of his sign.
>
>got anymore?
>
>group dynamics........what is it? This is why we can't accomplish
>anything..........we don't support each other. We don't tell the truth. We
>have become the very thing we hate.
>
>anyway thanks Bart for opening the opportunity to respond.
>
>robert
>
>
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From: MANDELL at yahoogroups.com [mailto:MANDELL at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Bart Boyce
>Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:25 PM
>To: robert; MANDELL at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [MANDELL] 'Iran will hit Dimona if attacked'
>
>
>Gee Meeester Robert ,
>
> Great article . As are many of the pieces you share .
>I take exception to your characterization of me and many of my friends .....
>Don Cook , Bob Carter , Julie , Gloria , Edwin , Ken , Beth , Nebeil ,
>Massoud ,
>Nicida , James Schriver , Ester King , Greg Johnson .....the list goes on
>and on .......
> I can't speak for any of the others ...... only myself .
>I do appreciate your noblisse oblige in sharing the world saving information
>you so kindly offer us on your list . But , Robert , please think about
>this .
>I don't get along with everyone all the time . I have ideological and
>personality
>differences with different people on our list . But , it isn't necessary to
>attack people
>is it ? Really ? There was this silly golden rule thing that my Mom taught
>me ....
>" Do unto others as you would have them do unto you ". Every single person
>on this
>list is involved to some deep or deeper level because we share a concern for
>Palestinians
>
>and the injustice of they have received at Israel's hands . Every single
>person is also involved
>in a variety of other Peace and Justice issues. We don't really deserve such
>angered commentary .
>
>Hope you see this as "reaching out" and not meddling ,
>Kindest regards,
>Bart
>
>
>
>
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From: robert <gram.graham at sbcglobal.net>
>To: MANDELL at yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 10:28:22 AM
>Subject: [MANDELL] 'Iran will hit Dimona if attacked'
>
>
>Thought you might find this interesting -
>http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=13330
>
>
>I have resisted from posting any articles to the Mandell list for the last
>couple of weeks because I found most on the list to be lying sacks of
>excrement and not my friend and because I own the list I have decided to fill
>the list with what I think is useful information that if read may allow you
>to have a better understanding of the current situation in our country as
>well as the middle east as well as the planet. I believe we are on the
>precipice of a total war scenario and if there was something I/we could do to
>stop it I/we should try.
>
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