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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I was not suggesting that it was just
Alyssa lack of imagination…….I am suggesting that we all lack sufficient
imagination. That includes you and me……..everybody. They…….the people who
control have got their plan……..and I believe it is to depopulate the planet to
a manageable level (I have read the 6 -10 million figure) and we don’t know how
they are going to achieve this goal but it is clear that this economic meltdown
is part of the plan……war is part of their plan…..chem trails is part of the
plan…….I believe that they have the ability to make changes in the weather……..and
I think we all agree that they control the media and the message and we only
have this internet and our own imagination to counterbalance. I very much
agree with you about the carbon thing in that what harm does it do to
personally cut down on the amount of carbon we add to the planet and I do try
to lessen this impact in every way I know how……again it is a lack of
imagination that prevents me from having a zero impact but I try as does
everyone on this list. And I think you must agree that what the media is
trying to project is that we are responsible for all of this and that Ric is
trying to point us to this conspiracy. I get by what he is saying is to
question everything. We have to keep asking ourselves who is pushing this
global warming? Could be that they want us all in such fear that we will
embrace fasism so that they will have to murder/terminate a certain amount of
people so that the earth will survive. After all they have murdered over a
million Iraqiis all innocent every single one of them……..even Saddam. But, for
these people (if you can call them people) that is way too costly and they just
can’t kill enough. Let’s face it…….they want us off their property……….just
like Ira said “ How does it feel to be owned?” implying that they own it all
and if you aren’t with them then you are against them and they want us gone……..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Ron and Kris
Graham [mailto:graham2639@mindspring.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, March 29, 2009 11:33
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'robert'; 'Alyssa Burgin'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> discuss@paa-tx.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [PAA-Discuss]The
"Weather Man" from Good Morning America years ago has a message for
you about the weatherþ</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black;font-weight:
bold'>Who are you talking about, Robert? Who exactly lacks sufficient
imagination? I didn’t read anything in Alyssa’s post that would suggest she
doesn’t think things will get worse. Please explain.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black;font-weight:
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> robert
[mailto:gram.graham@sbcglobal.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, March 29, 2009 11:17
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Alyssa Burgin'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> discuss@paa-tx.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [PAA-Discuss]The
"Weather Man" from Good Morning America years ago has a message for
you about the weatherþ</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>If you think things can't get worse it's probably only because you lack
sufficient imagination.<br>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
discuss-bounces@paa-tx.org [mailto:discuss-bounces@paa-tx.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Alyssa Burgin<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, March 29, 2009 11:07
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> discuss@paa-tx.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [PAA-Discuss]The
"Weather Man" from Good Morning America years ago has a message for
you about the weatherþ</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The last thing on this
earth I ever want to be is a "dupe" of big corporations. That's
exactly the position anyone is placing him or herself in by saying there is no
such thing as global warming or climate change.<br>
<br>
I'm a little astonished that someone who "gets it" with respect to
the giant behemoths of war doesn't get it with respect to the fossil fuel
companies. They're all the same thing!<br>
<br>
This IS a war, this is a war about science. Science is on the side I'm on, and
against the side that the giant corporations are taking. Sure, there are always
a few paid-for "experts" who will lie their brains out if they get
enough money for it, just as there were on the topic of, say, lead. Or mercury.
Or tobacco. Or any number of other deadly toxins. They whored themselves out,
indeed. But the overwhelming majority of scientists know exactly what is going
on. And what is going on is catastrophic.<br>
<br>
The earth is a closed system. That's something you always have to remember.
What goes up does indeed come down, and circulate, forever and ever.<br>
<br>
If you travel to other countries, the people there think Americans are pretty
stupid when it comes to fossil fuels and climate change. Just like when the <st1:country-region
w:st="on">U.S.</st1:country-region> persisted on making claims about <st1:country-region
w:st="on">Iraq</st1:country-region> that were not true, and were seen as
outrageous by people in places like <st1:country-region w:st="on">Italy</st1:country-region>
and <st1:country-region w:st="on">France</st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region
w:st="on">Germany</st1:country-region> or <st1:country-region w:st="on">Taiwan</st1:country-region>,
for that matter, climate change is viewed very differently in <st1:place w:st="on">Bali</st1:place>.
Or <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Thailand</st1:country-region></st1:place>.
Or <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Canada</st1:country-region></st1:place>.
Why? Because the big fossil-fuel companies don't lobby in those nations. Or
spend money on ads making claims that are false. People in those countries can
see with their own eyes what is happening, apart from corporate lies.<br>
<br>
It's time to move past fossil fuels, it's time to move into a different base
for our economy and our energy. In doing so, we would empower people and
industries that don't harm our planet or our people. How is that so bad? Hmm.
Seems it's only bad for the big fat corporate pigs who have long been making money
at our expense...<br>
<br>
Alyssa Burgin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2009/3/29 Rick _lux <<a href="mailto:lux_88@hotmail.com">lux_88@hotmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Assuming we don't blow ourselves up, or contaminate ourselves.....or
GMO ourselves ....I'm going to live here on Earth Kris. There may be a
catastrophe but I am not worried it will come from CO2 and frankly, I
think there are many more important things to worry about.. <br>
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Yes, I had a child, now he is a man, but I do worry for him and all our
children, as I am sure you do as well Kris.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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