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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName> [mailto:zch6402@yahoo.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 05, 2010
1:45 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'PAA';
graham2639@mindspring.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [PAA-Discuss] The
propaganda against the Wiki leaks</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Sorry everyone for
allowing myself to go out of my way for the first time and at your presence
to go over what i think of Kris behavior in the back of my mind.............<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> My behavior is of no concern to you, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. There is nothing wrong with my behavior
unless you consider questioning something (Wikileaks, Assange) as aberrant behavior
or calling you out on the lies you wrote about me.</span></font><br>
<br>
You heard me all Kris and no need to go over your psycho-narcissistic account
of what i have said<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=black><span
style='color:black'> </span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>What? Am I to allow you to spread lies about things I have
not said or asserted, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>? You
don’t get away with that. This has nothing whatsoever to do with “psycho-narcissism”
whatever that is</span></font> when my terms are going to be judged for
themselves and on the top of it you know that i no longer even care about
what you say abut politics<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=black><span
style='color:black'> </span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>Evidently you do care, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>
or you wouldn’t be replying to my last e-mail</span></font>,<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b>but
i have to make three points to only clarify my moral position to you to help
you help your miserable angry white trash mentality to rest and
change...........<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:
bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'> First of all, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>,
FUCK YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON. DON’T YOU EVER, EVER CALL ME
WHITE TRASH AGAIN OR I WILL HAND YOUR ASS TO YOU. GOT ME? Just because I don’t
happen to agree with everything your dogmatic ass says does NOT make me white
trash. You are a racist, a bully, and a judgmental bitter woman, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. How does it feel to be called names? It
doesn’t feel good, does it? Perhaps if you weren’t so angry all
the time you wouldn’t have the physical problems you have, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. You claim I am angry white trash. Perhaps
you should look in the mirror, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>
and realize who the angry female is. Generally, those things we despise in
other people can be witnessed to a certain degree in ourselves. I am the
first to admit it. What I will not tolerate is you judging me and calling me
white trash. That’s about the sorriest thing you have ever said to me,
and you’ve called me that more than once. I’m sick of it, so you
had better lay off. Argue with me or debate me but DO NOT call me names!
Also, do not take it upon yourself to try and change me. Change comes from
within, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. Figure it out.</span></font><br>
<br>
first,i will never become an American when my heart and mind does not belong
to this country or any other countries,but the world as a whole,no matter if
i live here for million years.........especially when i fully see the effect
of its corrupt culture that wrongfully produces the white trashes as you who
always stand on the wrong side of history<font color=black><span
style='color:black'> </span></font><font color=red><span style='color:red'>There
you go again with the name calling, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
Is that all you’ve got to your case?! If it is then you don’t
have a case to make. And guess what, sister? If you are paying taxes through
your employer directly into the system thereby giving your CONSENT to the <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">U.S.</st1:country-region></st1:place>
government to repress, torture and kill people then you are <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>as guilty</span></b> as any one of us whose tax
dollars do the same. If you are contributing to the <st1:country-region
w:st="on">U.S.</st1:country-region> government/military meat grinder through
your tax dollars, then you are as complicit as any one of us who were born in
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
so stop with the crap, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>
because I don’t buy it. Perhaps if you tell yourself enough times that
you are not to blame for everything going on in YOUR NAME and every other
taxpayers’ name you will believe your own con.</span></font>..........i
thought you were over with blaming blacks for all the problems that this country
has or wanted your government to monitor the borders to prevent Mexican
immigrants entering your land<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'> I don’t blame blacks and immigrants for
anything, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. I have grown and
moved beyond that wrong headed thinking. Once again, you are saying things
and attributing things to me that I have not said or written. You know what
happens when you assume something, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>?
You make an ASS out of U and ME. Stop doing that</span></font>
............and now you are resenting me for living here and not considering
myself an American?<font color=red><span style='color:red'> I did not say I
resented you for living here, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>
and not calling yourself an American. YOU SAID THAT. Are you deluded? Are you
on medication? I don’t think you are lucid, but if you are, then you
are making stuff up that I never said and attributing things to me that I
have not written or said and that is wrong, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
Are you an agent provocateur because you sure act like one? Or are you just a
mean spirited, authoritarian dogmatic woman who believes that Trotskyist
communism is the only way to go and everybody who doesn’t think like
you is an idiot who spouts rubbish as you like to say all the time?</span></font><br>
<br>
Let me wholeheartedly tell you this...........that your country will always
stand as the last resort to identify myself with,for producing the most
unreasonable,selfish,and back-warded people of all time<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'> </span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>That is your opinion only,</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'> </span></font><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>Zhaleh</span></font></st1:PersonName><font color=red><span
style='color:red'> and if you despise this country so much why in the hell
don’t you move back to Iran or go to Canada where your brother lives?
Nobody is forcing you to live here, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName></span></font>...........as
you who make the face of politics in this country embarrassing<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'> </span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>Wow, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>, it
sounds to me like your ego is bruised and you are lashing out at me with
absolutely NO LEG TO STAND ON! Argue the facts. Argue the merits of what I
have to say. Debate me. But DO NOT make suppositions about me, and do not
call me names because that tells me you have no legitimate counter to what I
have said in my prior e-mails.</span></font>.............you have sat at your
house for whole your life,never worked and do not even know from close how
people are dealing with their every day problems<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'> </span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>Once again, you are making unfounded remarks, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>, and you have no idea what in the hell you
are talking about. I worked for many years before my children were born and
after I split up with their father, I was a single working mother making very
little money. I also worked for quite a while when I moved to <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Houston</st1:place></st1:City>. So, shut the
fuck up and stop making stupid ass remarks based on knowing absolutely nothing
about me, my history or anything else. </span></font>...........and this is
your problem.<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:
bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'> I don’t have a problem, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
You seem to have a big problem, though with lashing out at me and calling me
names but not refuting a single thing I said in prior e-mails. You also seem
to have a problem with people who question the status quo and call into
question the motives of certain people and certain information</span></font>.......having
too much time spent on your disgusting language rnd accusations<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> I express myself as I damned well
please, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. Who are you to
judge how I express myself? You are the one accusing me of saying things I
did not say, so that makes you a liar, and I will call you out on your lies
every single time you say or write them especially when it concerns me</span></font>...........<sp></sp>second
for the sake of truth and transparency do not even waist one moment of my
time to tell me what Robert think of Iranians and our murderer regime<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> I am sure Robert can speak for
himself as he usually does. I merely mentioned that he and have talked on a
number of occasions about various things including Iran</span></font>.............for
i had numerous talks and discussions about this issue with him that there is
no need to retell them to you..........only Robert himself or others who
heard it must try to remember hem all..............<br>
<br>
And third, one another problem with you<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> Once again, I don’t have a
problem. You are saying I have a problem. I can figure out if I have a
problem or not, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. I don’t
need you to tell me I have one. Look in the mirror long and hard first, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName> and see if you can figure out who is
staring back at you </span></font>,is that you forget who you are and where
you are coming from<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>I know EXACTLY who I am, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
Who are YOU? I come from a place of brutal honesty, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
I also know I am fallible and make mistakes, but I am always willing to learn
and try to open my mind and heart to different ways of thinking. You have no
idea where I have been or where I am at this point in my life or where I am
going. You don’t know me at all, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
You like to think you do, but once again, that is your arrogance coming out</span></font>,but
concerning my narrow -mindedness and being a dogmatic communist<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> Are you saying you are not a
dyed-in-the-wool Trotskyist communist that believes every other form of
communism is wrong and that anarchism is a ridiculous, idealistic bunch of
nonsense? Do tell and please, be honest</span></font>.........in your
surprise i am one of those people that do fully knows what she wants.<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> Wonderful, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
Always KNOW THYSELF</span></font>.........the first rule in political
activities is to be able to target the goal and that is true that when i was
always a communist,you were a white trash Republican<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> There’s that name calling
again, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. It’s really
getting old and wearing mighty thin</span></font>,then a Democrat,Green
party,Socialist,Anarchist,spiritual,non spiritual,revolutionary with
gun,revolutionary without gun and let me think what else<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> Am I not allowed to try different
political parties and explore different systems and non systems and ways of
thinking? I thought that was growth, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
Evidently, you have something against people trying to learn and grow and
change their minds however many times they want to change them. Am I to be
trapped into a particular mold and way of thinking? Am I not allowed to grow,
learn and change my mind? Who do you think you are to infer that I am not
allowed to do those things? Your attitude is dictatorial, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.</span></font>...........i think that would
be enough,but regardless of what i have always been,i never preached non-
claimed communists what they should be or take their democratic rights away
from them or accuse them of something that i can not prove...........but i
know that i have always been a sensitive ethical-centered mentality and i am
proud to live my life with dignity and free of guilt<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> How nice for you, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName> that you can pay your tax dollars into this
capitalistic, imperialistic system knowing those dollars go directly to
arming Israel and other countries and killing innocent people all without
feeling a shred of guilt. A psychologist would have a field day with you</span></font>.............i
help everyone when i can and join other activities beside my interests with
no prejudice<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:
bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'> That’s good, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
Do whatever it takes to assuage that guilty conscience. I don’t
begrudge anyone helping her fellow man/woman. Everyone should do that. Just don’t
break your arm patting yourself on the back because a lot of people help their
fellow man and even other living creatures on this planet.</span></font>...........when
the term of our principles,not line.do allow me so........... i consciously
crticize/ed the wrong application of socialism in practice...........and i
never became immune to wrong doing or defending the indefensible..........
and those of you who know me well,do not throw their conscious away to call
me dogmatic or whatever rubbish you have said.<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> You appear dogmatic, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName> because you absolutely refuse to even
consider that anarchism or some hybrid version of anarchism/socialism might
be a better organic way of living than your Trotskyist communism</span></font>...........well
i am done with you Kris<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'> That is your prerogative, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>,
but when you address an e-mail to me with lies about things I have not
asserted or written, then you can expect I am not going to allow you to get
away with it</span></font>.......you are welcome to wine as always<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> the word is “whine”, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>, and I am not whining. I am simply calling
you out on your lies, name calling and your stubborn dogmatism</span></font>,and
i will always be here to only voice out my rejections on my own term and
principles that i am concerned about..........but you.............should try
to be truthful to yourself<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>I always try to be truthful to myself, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName></span></font><b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> </span></font>.......and beside
knowing who the Wikileaks is,find whooooooooooooooo, youuuuuuuuuuuu want to
be.................<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'> What’s with the whooooooooooooooo,
youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu business, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>?
If a person stops growing and changing, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>
then he or she stagnates. I wonder if anybody really knows who he or she is
even at the end of a life. Our perceptions change as we age. Our attitudes
change, too. Our worldview changes, as well, as we learn more. You seem
inclined to stop growing, and stop changing, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
Change is scary but necessary. I am well within my rights to question who
Wikileaks is and who they represent. I am also well within my rights to question
who Julian Assange is or anybody else. Why do you look down on me for that?
Why do you resort to calling me white trash over and over again? You don’t
like it when I hit back and throw some names your way, do you? Think about
it, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. If you choose to
engage me in the future then engage me with facts or debate the issues. DO
NOT throw names my way, or I will throw them back tenfold. If you want to engage
me with civility, then do so. If you want to get down in the mud with me and
act like heathens, then down in the mud we’ll go. You choose. I am game
for whatever.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName><br>
<br>
</span></font><font size=2 color="#8000ff"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:#8000FF'>class="yiv1382734849yiv1888229259body"></span></font><strong><b><font
size=2 color="#8000ff" face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:#8000FF'>The historic ascent of humanity, taken as a whole, may
be summarized as a succession of victories of consciousness over blind forces
- in nature, in society, in man himself.</span></font></b></strong><font
size=2 color="#8000ff"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#8000FF'> <br>
<br>
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=2 color="#8000ff" face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#8000FF'>The historic
ascent of humanity, taken as a whole, may be summarized as a succession of
victories of consciousness over blind forces - in nature, in society, in man
himself.</span></font></b></strong><font size=2 color="#8000ff"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#8000FF'> <br>
</span></font><font color="#8000ff"><span style='color:#8000FF'><br>
<span class=yshortcuts><b><span style='font-weight:bold'><span
style='background-attachment:scroll;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:
0%' id="lw_1254934561_3">Leon Trotsky</span></span></b></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sun, 12/5/10, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ron
and Kris Graham</st1:PersonName> <i><span style='font-style:italic'><graham2639@mindspring.com></span></i></span></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ron and Kris Graham</st1:PersonName>
<graham2639@mindspring.com><br>
Subject: RE: [PAA-Discuss] The propaganda against the Wiki leaks<br>
To: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>"
<zch6402@yahoo.com>, "'PAA'" <discuss@paa-tx.org><br>
Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 1:54 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><b><font size=2 color=black
face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:black;font-weight:bold'>I don’t know why I did not receive your
e-mail, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>, as the e-mail was
addressed to me, but suffice it to say, I received your e-mail from a friend
and am replying to it. My comments in red are below your comments.</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
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face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Kris</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=yiv186644028msonormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> discuss-bounces@paa-tx.org
[mailto:discuss-bounces@paa-tx.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 04,
2010 3:13 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> PAA<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [PAA-Discuss] The
propaganda against the Wiki leaks</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Kris, My time is very limited, but I should go
through some stuff with you……..first,I as one participate in
politics simply far different from you<font color=red><span
style='color:red'> what that means and what difference it makes is beyond
me, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName></span></font>............therefore
you are welcome to label yourself a coward, but not me<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>if you are paying taxes into this corrupt
and illegal system then you are complicit, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>
just as we all are who pay into the system and continue supporting it. This
makes us all cowards INCLUDING YOU.</span></font>……………..I
delivered my responsibility in every step of my life everywhere I resided,
including where I was born as much as possible<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>just as many people do, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>, so don’t feel like the Lone Ranger</span></font>………may
be you or Robert had to come and go to the bloody jails in Iran instead of
all of us<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>Why do you say that, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>?
I am not cheerleading for the Iranian government</span></font>……….
not to undermine or minimize what Iranians are going through since 70 years
ago that should wholeheartedly be condemned equally the same as the regime
of the united states, no less no more, equally the same, if we want to be
fair and principled<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>Once again, I reiterate, I am NOT cheerleading for the
Iranian government. I am saying that the Wikileaks are benefiting <st1:country-region
w:st="on">Israel</st1:country-region> by showing certain Arab heads of
state are “concerned” about a nuclear <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Iran</st1:place></st1:country-region> .
Evidently, the Arab PEOPLE according to a recent poll conducted this past
summer are much more concerned about a nuclear <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">ISRAEL</st1:place></st1:country-region> and a nuclear UNITED
STATES. Did you not read the poll information, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>??</span></font>……….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>My country is diminishing by the lack of basic
democracy and human rights and no less than the American government is
guilty of crimes against the whole humanity in peri<font color=black><span
style='color:black'>l </span></font><font color=red><span style='color:
red'>Tell me something I don’t already know</span></font>, and all of
the class collaborationist,including the Socialist Equality Party, the
Workers World, the ISO,and the SWP which come to my mind at this time<font
color=red><span style='color:red'> I have come to the conclusion that ANY
political party EVEN your Fifth International is a class collaborationist
and useless as tits on a boar if one class of people EVEN working people
are heads of government. This is because ONLY the workers considered MORE
EDUCATED get to lead the government as if the people themselves don’t
have sense enough to figure out their own lives. Give me a break, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. </span></font>, if can not do anything
good to the Iranians, would be better to choose silence, for all my
revolutionary internationalist friends no further can consider you
all the conscious hearts or minds<font color=red><span style='color:red'>
ONLY the Iranian people can free themselves from their slavery just as only
WE can free ourselves from slavery, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
Perhaps our conscious hearts and minds should consider freeing ourselves
before we jump on the bandwagon of trying to free other enslaved people</span></font>………
your theses have come out so unclean, negligent and complicit hand in
hand with the criminal Islamic regime of Iran so far<font color=red><span
style='color:red'> I call BULLSHIT on that, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
You just uttered an out and out LIE and I am calling you on it</span></font>……..
for when it goes to the human rights and killing people in many ways and
all around the world, then considering the less evil is a crime and
accomplice itself<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>I have ALWAYS said there is no such thing as lesser evil.
Evil is evil if you want to wax biblical which is strange for an atheist
such as yourself. Where in the hell have you been?!</span></font>.<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>If you weren’t still so angry with
me for questioning things like the pros and cons of socialism, anarchism,
and communism perhaps you would’ve taken the time to read some of my
posts to the discussion list where I talked about the above.</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I have no idea from what window I should talk to
you or Robert about the principles of Marxism<font color=red><span
style='color:red'> You don’t need to talk to me about the principles
of anything, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. I am
perfectly capable of finding out that information for myself, so
don’t trouble yourself</span></font>, because you do not know
anything about it at all, but in one paragraph, I should say that the real
and genuine Marxists have always had a two fold propaganda and agitations
against all criminal regimes, and when……… it is the
matter of the life or the death, then the USA, Israel, Iran and all other
capitalists are equally the same and murderer<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>No kidding. I’ve been saying that
recently.</span></font>. Blood is blood, rivered in <st1:country-region
w:st="on">Israel</st1:country-region> , <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Iran</st1:place></st1:country-region> , and anywhere
else………..<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>I am the one who told YOU, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>
in my prior e-mail that we all bleed the same red blood no matter where we
live.</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> The Nuclear proliferations should come as
clean as an international applied perspective, therefore till then as a
right for the Iranian people, I fully support that for every economic and
security measures that it could bring to the Iranians<font color=red><span
style='color:red'> I already said in a prior e-mail that if Iran DID have a
nuclear weapon then who cares? I listed several countries that have them.
One would expect <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Iran</st1:place></st1:country-region>
to have one and try to protect itself from insane regimes that wish to do
it harm. If the PEOPLE of <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Iran</st1:place></st1:country-region>
want nuclear facilities for power in their country that is their right but
ONLY if ALL the people in the country want that. Majority rule is NOT
democratic by any stretch of the imagination. There are better ways to get
power than nuclear</span></font>…………no matter what
regime is ruling in Iran - but beside that there is absolutely nothing in
Iran and here to defend as a person of conscious<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'> </span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>I never tried to defend Iran, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
Where are you getting that? You must be hallucinating.</span></font> that
we expect you to be and I should tell you very frankly that I think the
theses that you or Robert are promoting here are very reactionary in essenc<font
color=black><span style='color:black'>e </span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>WHY?! Because we question the Wikileaks and what they are
and who Julian Assange is and what his angle is?! If those questions are
reactionary then great!! I am a proud reactionary! Perhaps you should
question more instead of lapping up the Wikileaks like a hungry dog</span></font>
and for long I discontinued to read them as many of us has done the same<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>Well, bully for you, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>, that is your right if you want to
discontinue reading my threads. It’s no skin off my nose and believe
me, I don’t lose one minute of sleep over that news</span></font>…………and
simply I should say that the Iranians do not need you and on the top of it,
do not need the American government to come and free Iranians for
themselves. <b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:
bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>I never said the Iranians needed me or anybody else to
“free themselves”. Only the people of a country can free
themselves from slavery. Good grief! Don’t you read a word I write?
Oh yeah, you don’t. You said that. You like to assume things about
what I think. How can you do that, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>
since you are not me and definitely not inside my head? </span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Iranians remember 1953 very clearly, on the other
hand why the American government should change the Iranian government, when
they planted it there themselves in the first place?<font color=black><span
style='color:black'> </span></font><font color=red><span style='color:red'>The
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region>
government “planted” the Shah into power as you already know, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. They probably want to oust Ahmadinejad
because they want a puppet that they can control, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
That’s pretty obvious.</span></font> <font color=red><span
style='color:red'>Of course, it’s the mullahs that run <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Iran</st1:place></st1:country-region> , so
ousting Ahmadinejad wouldn’t do much unless the CIA/Mossad took out
Ayatollah Khameini. </span></font>Who can be more anti communist as much as
the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region>
and the Iranian regime and Robert themselves?<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> Perhaps Robert doesn’t
believe in STATE RUN COMMUNISM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
There are other forms of communism like ANARCHO-COMMUNISM.</span></font>
Don’t you see that the Shah and the Islamic regime of <st1:country-region
w:st="on">Iran</st1:country-region> both served American desires for <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Iran</st1:place></st1:country-region> for
years?<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>Of course I know that, dear.</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> There is a methodology beneath everything we
say and do…………you can all embarrass yourselves by
your stance against the Iranian people<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>We are not against the Iranian people, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. There you go again making FALSE
ACCUSATIONS WHICH HAVE NO BASIS!</span></font> or accusing the Wiki leaks
of being an Israeli front<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>We are QUESTIONING Wikileaks because ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
has come out in them condemning <st1:country-region w:st="on">Israel</st1:country-region>
and their murderous policies and their influence and spying within the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>
government. Try questioning things sometime, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
It really helps clear the cobwebs from one’s mind and helps one think
clearly</span></font>, simply because so far they could only accessed the
materials concerning the USA government not Israel, but hey……..
there are many things wrong with the whole world also …Wiki did not
find any links to five other continents yet/also……….<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>Maybe they will. One can only hope.
There’s that word we’ve been hearing so much about.</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>It is good to be known that how bloody the role of
Iran has been in the Afghanistan and Iraq in steering up the problems
between the Sonnies and Shias…………that should be
brothers………it is good to know that how dirty the role of
the Iranian regime has been in changing the Saddam Hussein and it is good
to know that who is urging the USA to attack Iran, apparently one of them
is their fellow Muslim regime/regimes<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> Is this some surprise to you, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName> that the PUPPET LEADERS in Arab countries
are calling for the bombing or neutralization of Iran? If these so called
leaders want to do business with the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">United States</st1:place></st1:country-region> then they have to
tow the line, don’t they?? This is no great revelation except to
people who aren’t paying attention or don’t care enough or have
the means to try and tease through the bullshit that the MSM spews out
daily and find out some semblance of the truth</span></font>………..don’t
you think if Your country had any problems with Iran, before going to go to
Iraq, was going to Boucher Iranians first?<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>The United States military wouldn’t
dare bomb Iran unless they were nuts enough to open a Pandora’s Box
which would lead to the closing of the Straits of Hormuz and the stoppage
of the oil flow not to mention the million plus army in Iran butchering
every single American and allied soldier that they could and basically
starting WW III. They decided to obliterate a smaller country whose people
had already been decimated by 10 years of economic sanctions and two Gulf
Wars. The <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">United States</st1:place></st1:country-region>
is a cowardly, bully nation. Haven’t you noticed that the <st1:country-region
w:st="on">U.S.</st1:country-region> military acting on orders from the <st1:country-region
w:st="on">U.S.</st1:country-region> government has not bombed <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">North Korea</st1:place></st1:country-region>
into the Stone Age? We haven’t bombed <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">China</st1:place></st1:country-region> . We haven’t bombed
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Russia</st1:place></st1:country-region>
. This is because the United States government KNOWS it would either get
this country nuked right back or this country would get its ass handed to
it by a coalition of other countries that are tired of being fucked with
and maybe even want to be the NEW DICTATORS on the block.</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>In addition, i should tell you also that I do not
and will not care in million years if Wiki does not talk about the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region><b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> Whatever, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
Evidently, you don’t really care about the 60+ years of terrorism and
genocide dished out by the Israelis toward the true Semitic people in
Palestine and the people in Lebanon</span></font>…………because
the master…….. is the <st1:country-region w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region><b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> So, we should just forget about <st1:country-region
w:st="on">Israel</st1:country-region> and focus on the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">United States</st1:place></st1:country-region>
. How convenient for <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>
, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. You play right into
their hands.</span></font>………..Israel has the capability
to continue its crimes, because of the support it takes from your government
<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>DO YOU PAY TAXES TO THIS GOVERNMENT, ZHALEH?!!! If you do
then you are complicit in what YOUR government does in YOUR name and with
YOUR money!! Didn’t you move here back in the 1980s?? How convenient
for your conscience that you can work here, buy things here, live here and
still claim the U.S. government is somebody else’s government and not
yours. You are a hypocrite of the first order, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>
and I’m calling you on that. Now, if you get paid CASH UNDER THE
TABLE and pay no taxes whatsoever and do not buy one thing here in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region> and
in no way contribute to this capitalist system, then you are lily white and
innocent as a newborn baby, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>.
I highly doubt that, though, so stop with all this bullshit about how the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region>
government is not your government. It is everybody’s government that
pays into it!!! </span></font>and all the bourgeois nationalist capitalist
Palestinians or such would love not to attack <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region> politically<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> I have bitched about this, too, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. They won’t say anything bad about
the United States because they just might get deported back to Palestine or
what’s left of it and then they wouldn’t be able to make all
the money they make and buy all the fancy shit they buy</span></font>, but
only concentrate their attacks on the Israel<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'> </span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>That’s the safe route, not isn’t it? However,
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>
is doing the killing of the Palestinians albeit with OUR MONEY and the WMD
the U.S. Military complex gives them. So, both shitty nation states are
equally to blame</span></font>………..this is a shame, to
ignore the source of the problems<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> Christ almighty damn, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>! No one is ignoring the source. Get off
it already!</span></font>………..it is easier to condemn the
petty things around<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'> What’s “petty” about Israel
killing people and repressing people and stealing land and natural
resources for the last 60+ years?</span></font> and let the big brothers go
clean…………we are used to seeing this methodology to
confuses people more……….like arresting the ordinary
miserable people with less than one gram of drugs and let the cartels go
free<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'> I agree with that. White collar criminals go scot
free while people who enjoy smoking a little weed go to prison for the rest
of their lives. It’s all bullshit meant to imprison and enslave
mostly young men of color who just might get sick and tired of being
repressed and enslaved and rise up against the mother fuckers who are doing
the repressing and enslaving. How convenient for the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region>
government that they are locked up tight in prisons. We haven’t even
touched on the money that the Corrections Corporation of <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region> is
making with all these locked up prisoners and new prisons being built. Look
‘em up and learn something.</span></font>………..well
it seems that this has become a political life style for
some………….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>True revolutionaries should see further than these
<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>People can be true revolutionaries in many ways, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. Opening one’s mind to a different
way of thinking is revolutionary in and of itself. One doesn’t need
to pick up a gun to be a revolutionary. There are many ways to start a
revolution.</span></font>…………on the other hand the
Israelis government that you are talking about is much more sophisticated
than what you think to let its classified documents leak to the outside
world……….isn’t it? <b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>What classified documents? Stating what
exactly? Nobody said the Israeli government wasn’t sophisticated. The
Israelis are murderous and conniving bastards who will stop at nothing to
get what they want. If they want something “leaked” then it
will be leaked, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>. In this
case, making the Israeli case for war with <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Iran</st1:place></st1:country-region> seems to be the objective.</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>My question is that what are you afraid of? <font
color=red><span style='color:red'>I’m more afraid of people like you
who are so dogmatic that you can’t see anybody else’s point of
view except your own. This clouds the mind, does it not, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Zhaleh</st1:PersonName>? You believe so staunchly in communism by
way of state run socialism even by the workers that you won’t even
take into consideration that maybe people don’t need or want a
government or nanny state to take care of them and tell them what to do,
when to do it, how to do it and where to do it. </span></font>That the <st1:country-region
w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region> has come unclean alone or people are
that stupid not to know that the <st1:country-region w:st="on">Israel</st1:country-region>
is a bloody <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>
because of the immense support it takes from your country?<b><i><font
color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> Hopefully, people are waking up to
this fact but they are not waking up on account of the bought and paid for
MSM which won’t say one single word in condemnation of Israel</span></font>
Which one of the above? On the other hand those who stand against killing
children and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, for sure DO NOT support it in
Palestine also…….remember that the role the Wiki is playing is not
about analyzing the current politics, but to access the links to them
primarily ………..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>What I do like the most in what the wiki leaks is
doing, is not the leaked information at all, though that would be very
necessary for the ordinary people to see with facts that what America, the
land of democracy is doing to them<b><i><font color=black><span
style='color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> These leaks aren’t showing
Americans what American “democracy” is doing to them. The leaks
are showing how arrogant and stupid the United States government is, but if
the American people are not reading the Wikileaks word for word and are
getting their information from the MSM, then they’re not getting the
whole story, are they?</span></font>, but let alone the ability to show how
fragile the capitalism/imperialism really can be, and how from within as one
of the rules of the Dialectical Materialism, will be prone to
collapse…… as simple as that..........when the time for the
people’s revolutionary upsurge will come………….
<b><i><font color=black><span style='color:black;font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><font color=red><span
style='color:red'>Well, we shall see if an international revolutionary
upsurge comes, won’t we? If another government is put into place to
replace the one that falls apart (assuming it does) then nothing will have
been solved. </span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=yiv186644028msonormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Zhaleh</span></font></st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=2 color="#8000ff" face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#8000FF'>The historic
ascent of humanity, taken as a whole, may be summarized as a succession of victories
of consciousness over blind forces - in nature, in society, in man himself.</span></font></b></strong><font
size=2 color="#8000ff"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#8000FF'> <br>
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<span class=yiv186644028yshortcuts><span style='background-attachment:scroll'
id="yiv186644028lw_1254934561_3"><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Leon
Trotsky</span></span></b></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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