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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=081142105-06122010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>this person is a fraud......her task is to recruit for the
communist party and if that can't be achieved then disrupt. She would
prefer to have her own country turn into a sheet of glass by the Jews if they
will not embrace her form of communism.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> discuss-bounces@paa-tx.org
[mailto:discuss-bounces@paa-tx.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Zhaleh<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Sunday, December 05, 2010 1:45 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'PAA';
graham2639@mindspring.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PAA-Discuss] The propaganda
against the Wiki leaks<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>Sorry everyone for allowing myself to go out of my way for
the first time and at your presence to go over what i think of Kris
behavior in the back of my mind.............<BR><BR>You heard me all Kris
and no need to go over your <SPAN>psycho</SPAN>-<SPAN>narcissistic</SPAN>
account of what i have said when my terms are going to be judged for
themselves and on the top of it you know that i no longer even care about
what you say abut politics,but i have to make three points to only clarify
my moral position to you to help you help your miserable angry white trash
mentality to rest and change...........<BR><BR>first,i will never become
an American when my heart and mind does not belong to this country or any
other countries,but the world as a whole,no matter if i live here for
million years.........especially when i fully see the effect of its
corrupt culture that wrongfully produces the white trashes as you who
always stand on the wrong side of history..........i thought you were over
with blaming blacks for all the problems that this country has or wanted
your government to monitor the borders to prevent <SPAN>Mexican immigrants
</SPAN>entering your land ............and now you are resenting me for
living here and not considering myself an American?<BR><BR>Let me
wholeheartedly tell you this...........that your country will always stand
as the last resort to identify myself with,for producing the most
unreasonable,selfish,and back-warded people of all time............as you
who make the face of politics in this country embarrassing.............you
have sat at your house for whole your life,never worked and do not even
know from close how people are dealing with their every day
problems...........and this is your problem........having too much time
spent on your disgusting language rnd
accusations...........<SPAN><SP></SP></SPAN>second for the sake of truth
and transparency do not even waist one moment of my time to tell me what
Robert think of Iranians and our murderer regime.............for i had
numerous talks and discussions about this issue with him that there is no
need to retell them to you..........only Robert himself or others who
heard it must try to remember hem all..............<BR><BR>And third, one
another problem with you,is that you forget who you are and where you are
coming from,but concerning my na<SPAN>rrow -mindedness and </SPAN>being a
dogmatic communist.........in your surprise i am one of those people
<SPAN><SPAN>t</SPAN>hat do</SPAN> fully knows what she wants..........the
first rule in political activities is to be able to target the goal and
that is true that when i was always a communist,you were a white trash
Republican,then a Democrat,Green party,Socialist,Anarchist,spiritual,non
spiritual,re<SPAN>volutionary w</SPAN>ith gun,revolutionary without gun
and let me think what else...........i think that would be enough,but
regardless of what i have always been,i never preached non- claimed
communists what they should be or take their democratic rights away from
them or accuse them of something that i can not prove...........but i know
that i have always been a sensitive ethical-centered mentality and i<SPAN>
am proud</SPAN> to live my life with dignity and free of
guilt.............i help everyone when i can and join other activities
beside my interests with no prejudice...........when the term of our
principles,not line.do allow me so........... i consciously crticize/ed
the wrong application o<SPAN>f socialis</SPAN>m in practice...........and
i never became immune to wrong doing or defending the
indefensible.......... and those of you who know m<SPAN>e well,do
no</SPAN>t throw their conscious away to call me dogmatic or whatever
rubbish you have said............well i am done with you Kris.......you
are welcome to wine as always,and i will always be here to only voice out
my rejections on my own term and principles that i am concerned
about..........but you<SPAN>.<SPAN>..</SPAN>......</SPAN>....should try to
be truthful to yourself.......and beside knowing who the Wikileaks is,find
whooooooooooooooo, youuuuuuuuuuuu want to
be.................<BR>Zhaleh<BR><BR><FONT color=#8000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN><SPAN>class</SPAN>="yiv1382734849yiv1888229259body"><FONT
face=Verdana><STRONG>The <SPAN>his</SPAN>toric ascent of humanity, taken
as a whole, may be summarized as a succession of victories of
consciousness over blind forces - in nature, in society, in man
himself.</STRONG></FONT></SPAN> <BR></FONT></FONT><BR><BR>
<P><FONT color=#8000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=body><FONT
face=Verdana><STRONG>The historic ascent of humanity, taken as a whole,
may be summarized as a succession of victories of consciousness over blind
forces - in nature, in society, in man himself.</STRONG></FONT></SPAN>
<BR></FONT><BR><STRONG><FONT
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"><SPAN
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%"
id=lw_1254934561_3 class=yshortcuts>Leon
Trotsky</SPAN></FONT></STRONG></FONT></P><BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 12/5/10,
Ron and Kris Graham <I><graham2639@mindspring.com></I></B>
wrote:<BR>
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Ron and Kris Graham <graham2639@mindspring.com><BR>Subject: RE:
[PAA-Discuss] The propaganda against the Wiki leaks<BR>To: "Zhaleh"
<zch6402@yahoo.com>, "'PAA'" <discuss@paa-tx.org><BR>Date:
Sunday, December 5, 2010, 1:54 AM<BR><BR>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">I
don’t know why I did not receive your e-mail, Zhaleh, as the e-mail was
addressed to me, but suffice it to say, I received your e-mail from a
friend and am replying to it. My comments in red are below your
comments.</SPAN></FONT></B></P>
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discuss-bounces@paa-tx.org [mailto:discuss-bounces@paa-tx.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Zhaleh<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, December 04, 2010
3:13 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
PAA<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[PAA-Discuss] The propaganda against the Wiki leaks</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=yiv186644028MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Kris, My time
is very limited, but I should go through some stuff with
you……..first,I as one participate in politics simply far different
from you<FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red"> what that means
and what difference it makes is beyond me,
Zhaleh</SPAN></FONT>............therefore you are welcome to label
yourself a coward, but not me<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">if
you are paying taxes into this corrupt and illegal system then you
are complicit, Zhaleh just as we all are who pay into the system
and continue supporting it. This makes us all cowards INCLUDING
YOU.</SPAN></FONT>……………..I delivered my responsibility in every
step of my life everywhere I resided, including where I was born
as much as possible<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">just as many people do, Zhaleh, so don’t feel
like the Lone Ranger</SPAN></FONT>………may be you or Robert had to
come and go to the bloody jails in Iran instead of all of
us<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">Why
do you say that, Zhaleh? I am not cheerleading for the Iranian
government</SPAN></FONT>………. not to undermine or minimize what
Iranians are going through since 70 years ago that should
wholeheartedly be condemned equally the same as the regime of the
united states, no less no more, equally the same, if we want to be
fair and principled<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">Once again, I reiterate, I am NOT cheerleading
for the Iranian government. I am saying that the Wikileaks are
benefiting Israel by showing certain Arab heads of state are
“concerned” about a nuclear Iran . Evidently, the Arab PEOPLE
according to a recent poll conducted this past summer are much
more concerned about a nuclear ISRAEL and a nuclear UNITED STATES.
Did you not read the poll information,
Zhaleh??</SPAN></FONT>……….</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=yiv186644028MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">My country is
diminishing by the lack of basic democracy and human rights and no
less than the American government is guilty of crimes against the
whole humanity in peri<FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">l </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">Tell me something I don’t already
know</SPAN></FONT>, and all of the class
collaborationist,including the Socialist Equality Party, the
Workers World, the ISO,and the SWP which come to my mind at this
time<FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red"> I have come to the
conclusion that ANY political party EVEN your Fifth International
is a class collaborationist and useless as tits on a boar if one
class of people EVEN working people are heads of government. This
is because ONLY the workers considered MORE EDUCATED get to lead
the government as if the people themselves don’t have sense enough
to figure out their own lives. Give me a break, Zhaleh.
</SPAN></FONT>, if can not do anything good to the Iranians, would
be better to choose silence, for all my revolutionary
internationalist friends no further can consider you all the
conscious hearts or minds<FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">
ONLY the Iranian people can free themselves from their slavery
just as only WE can free ourselves from slavery, Zhaleh. Perhaps
our conscious hearts and minds should consider freeing ourselves
before we jump on the bandwagon of trying to free other enslaved
people</SPAN></FONT>……… your theses have come out so
unclean, negligent and complicit hand in hand with the criminal
Islamic regime of Iran so far<FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> I call BULLSHIT on that, Zhaleh. You just
uttered an out and out LIE and I am calling you on
it</SPAN></FONT>…….. for when it goes to the human rights and
killing people in many ways and all around the world, then
considering the less evil is a crime and accomplice
itself<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">I
have ALWAYS said there is no such thing as lesser evil. Evil is
evil if you want to wax biblical which is strange for an atheist
such as yourself. Where in the hell have you
been?!</SPAN></FONT>.<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">If
you weren’t still so angry with me for questioning things like the
pros and cons of socialism, anarchism, and communism perhaps you
would’ve taken the time to read some of my posts to the discussion
list where I talked about the
above.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=yiv186644028MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have no
idea from what window I should talk to you or Robert about the
principles of Marxism<FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red"> You
don’t need to talk to me about the principles of anything, Zhaleh.
I am perfectly capable of finding out that information for myself,
so don’t trouble yourself</SPAN></FONT>, because you do not know
anything about it at all, but in one paragraph, I should say that
the real and genuine Marxists have always had a two fold
propaganda and agitations against all criminal regimes, and
when……… it is the matter of the life or the death, then the USA,
Israel, Iran and all other capitalists are equally the same and
murderer<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">No
kidding. I’ve been saying that recently.</SPAN></FONT>. Blood is
blood, rivered in Israel , Iran , and anywhere
else………..<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">I
am the one who told YOU, Zhaleh in my prior e-mail that we all
bleed the same red blood no matter where we
live.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=yiv186644028MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> The
Nuclear proliferations should come as clean as an international
applied perspective, therefore till then as a right for the
Iranian people, I fully support that for every economic and
security measures that it could bring to the Iranians<FONT
color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red"> I already said in a prior
e-mail that if Iran DID have a nuclear weapon then who cares? I
listed several countries that have them. One would expect Iran to
have one and try to protect itself from insane regimes that wish
to do it harm. If the PEOPLE of Iran want nuclear facilities for
power in their country that is their right but ONLY if ALL the
people in the country want that. Majority rule is NOT democratic
by any stretch of the imagination. There are better ways to get
power than nuclear</SPAN></FONT>…………no matter what regime is
ruling in Iran - but beside that there is absolutely nothing in
Iran and here to defend as a person of conscious<B><I><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">I never tried to defend Iran, Zhaleh. Where are
you getting that? You must be hallucinating.</SPAN></FONT> that we
expect you to be and I should tell you very frankly that I think
the theses that you or Robert are promoting here are very
reactionary in essenc<FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">e </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">WHY?! Because we question the Wikileaks and
what they are and who Julian Assange is and what his angle is?! If
those questions are reactionary then great!! I am a proud
reactionary! Perhaps you should question more instead of lapping
up the Wikileaks like a hungry dog</SPAN></FONT> and for long I
discontinued to read them as many of us has done the
same<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">Well, bully for you, Zhaleh, that is your right
if you want to discontinue reading my threads. It’s no skin off my
nose and believe me, I don’t lose one minute of sleep over that
news</SPAN></FONT>…………and simply I should say that the Iranians do
not need you and on the top of it, do not need the American
government to come and free Iranians for themselves. <B><I><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"> </SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT
color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">I never said the Iranians
needed me or anybody else to “free themselves”. Only the people of
a country can free themselves from slavery. Good grief! Don’t you
read a word I write? Oh yeah, you don’t. You said that. You like
to assume things about what I think. How can you do that, Zhaleh
since you are not me and definitely not inside my head?
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=yiv186644028MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Iranians
remember 1953 very clearly, on the other hand why the American
government should change the Iranian government, when they planted
it there themselves in the first place?<FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">The U.S. government “planted” the Shah into
power as you already know, Zhaleh. They probably want to oust
Ahmadinejad because they want a puppet that they can control,
Zhaleh. That’s pretty obvious.</SPAN></FONT> <FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">Of course, it’s the mullahs that run Iran , so
ousting Ahmadinejad wouldn’t do much unless the CIA/Mossad took
out Ayatollah Khameini. </SPAN></FONT>Who can be more anti
communist as much as the USA and the Iranian regime and Robert
themselves?<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> Perhaps Robert doesn’t believe in STATE
RUN COMMUNISM, Zhaleh. There are other forms of communism like
ANARCHO-COMMUNISM.</SPAN></FONT> Don’t you see that the Shah and
the Islamic regime of Iran both served American desires for Iran
for years?<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">Of
course I know that, dear.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=yiv186644028MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> There
is a methodology beneath everything we say and do…………you can all
embarrass yourselves by your stance against the Iranian
people<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">We
are not against the Iranian people, Zhaleh. There you go again
making FALSE ACCUSATIONS WHICH HAVE NO BASIS!</SPAN></FONT> or
accusing the Wiki leaks of being an Israeli front<B><I><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">We
are QUESTIONING Wikileaks because ABSOLUTELY NOTHING has come out
in them condemning Israel and their murderous policies and their
influence and spying within the US government. Try questioning
things sometime, Zhaleh. It really helps clear the cobwebs from
one’s mind and helps one think clearly</SPAN></FONT>, simply
because so far they could only accessed the materials concerning
the USA government not Israel, but hey…….. there are many things
wrong with the whole world also …Wiki did not find any links to
five other continents yet/also……….<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">Maybe they will. One can only hope. There’s
that word we’ve been hearing so much
about.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=yiv186644028MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It is good to
be known that how bloody the role of Iran has been in the
Afghanistan and Iraq in steering up the problems between the
Sonnies and Shias…………that should be brothers………it is good to know
that how dirty the role of the Iranian regime has been in changing
the Saddam Hussein and it is good to know that who is urging the
USA to attack Iran, apparently one of them is their fellow Muslim
regime/regimes<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> Is this some surprise to you, Zhaleh that
the PUPPET LEADERS in Arab countries are calling for the bombing
or neutralization of Iran? If these so called leaders want to do
business with the United States then they have to tow the line,
don’t they?? This is no great revelation except to people who
aren’t paying attention or don’t care enough or have the means to
try and tease through the bullshit that the MSM spews out daily
and find out some semblance of the truth</SPAN></FONT>………..don’t
you think if Your country had any problems with Iran, before going
to go to Iraq, was going to Boucher Iranians first?<B><I><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">The
United States military wouldn’t dare bomb Iran unless they were
nuts enough to open a Pandora’s Box which would lead to the
closing of the Straits of Hormuz and the stoppage of the oil flow
not to mention the million plus army in Iran butchering every
single American and allied soldier that they could and basically
starting WW III. They decided to obliterate a smaller country
whose people had already been decimated by 10 years of economic
sanctions and two Gulf Wars. The United States is a cowardly,
bully nation. Haven’t you noticed that the U.S. military acting on
orders from the U.S. government has not bombed North Korea into
the Stone Age? We haven’t bombed China . We haven’t bombed Russia
. This is because the United States government KNOWS it would
either get this country nuked right back or this country would get
its ass handed to it by a coalition of other countries that are
tired of being fucked with and maybe even want to be the NEW
DICTATORS on the block.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=yiv186644028MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">In addition,
i should tell you also that I do not and will not care in million
years if Wiki does not talk about the Israel<B><I><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> Whatever, Zhaleh. Evidently, you don’t
really care about the 60+ years of terrorism and genocide dished
out by the Israelis toward the true Semitic people in Palestine
and the people in Lebanon</SPAN></FONT>…………because the master……..
is the USA<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> So, we should just forget about Israel
and focus on the United States . How convenient for Israel ,
Zhaleh. You play right into their hands.</SPAN></FONT>………..Israel
has the capability to continue its crimes, because of the support
it takes from your government <B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"> </SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT
color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">DO YOU PAY TAXES TO THIS
GOVERNMENT, ZHALEH?!!! If you do then you are complicit in what
YOUR government does in YOUR name and with YOUR money!! Didn’t you
move here back in the 1980s?? How convenient for your conscience
that you can work here, buy things here, live here and still claim
the U.S. government is somebody else’s government and not yours.
You are a hypocrite of the first order, Zhaleh and I’m calling you
on that. Now, if you get paid CASH UNDER THE TABLE and pay no
taxes whatsoever and do not buy one thing here in America and in
no way contribute to this capitalist system, then you are lily
white and innocent as a newborn baby, Zhaleh. I highly doubt that,
though, so stop with all this bullshit about how the U.S.
government is not your government. It is everybody’s government
that pays into it!!! </SPAN></FONT>and all the bourgeois
nationalist capitalist Palestinians or such would love not to
attack America politically<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> I have bitched about this, too, Zhaleh.
They won’t say anything bad about the United States because they
just might get deported back to Palestine or what’s left of it and
then they wouldn’t be able to make all the money they make and buy
all the fancy shit they buy</SPAN></FONT>, but only concentrate
their attacks on the Israel<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">That’s the safe route, not isn’t it? However,
Israel is doing the killing of the Palestinians albeit with OUR
MONEY and the WMD the U.S. Military complex gives them. So, both
shitty nation states are equally to blame</SPAN></FONT>………..this
is a shame, to ignore the source of the problems<B><I><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> Christ almighty damn, Zhaleh! No one is
ignoring the source. Get off it already!</SPAN></FONT>………..it is
easier to condemn the petty things around<B><I><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> What’s “petty” about Israel killing
people and repressing people and stealing land and natural
resources for the last 60+ years?</SPAN></FONT> and let the big
brothers go clean…………we are used to seeing this methodology to
confuses people more……….like arresting the ordinary miserable
people with less than one gram of drugs and let the cartels go
free<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> I agree with that. White collar criminals
go scot free while people who enjoy smoking a little weed go to
prison for the rest of their lives. It’s all bullshit meant to
imprison and enslave mostly young men of color who just might get
sick and tired of being repressed and enslaved and rise up against
the mother fuckers who are doing the repressing and enslaving. How
convenient for the U.S. government that they are locked up tight
in prisons. We haven’t even touched on the money that the
Corrections Corporation of America is making with all these locked
up prisoners and new prisons being built. Look ‘em up and learn
something.</SPAN></FONT>………..well it seems that this has become a
political life style for some………….</SPAN></FONT></P>
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face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
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<P class=yiv186644028MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">True
revolutionaries should see further than these <B><I><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"> </SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT
color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">People can be true
revolutionaries in many ways, Zhaleh. Opening one’s mind to a
different way of thinking is revolutionary in and of itself. One
doesn’t need to pick up a gun to be a revolutionary. There are
many ways to start a revolution.</SPAN></FONT>…………on the other
hand the Israelis government that you are talking about is much
more sophisticated than what you think to let its classified
documents leak to the outside world……….isn’t it? <B><I><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"> </SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT
color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">What classified documents?
Stating what exactly? Nobody said the Israeli government wasn’t
sophisticated. The Israelis are murderous and conniving bastards
who will stop at nothing to get what they want. If they want
something “leaked” then it will be leaked, Zhaleh. In this case,
making the Israeli case for war with Iran seems to be the
objective.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=yiv186644028MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">My question
is that what are you afraid of? <FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">I’m more afraid of people like you who are so
dogmatic that you can’t see anybody else’s point of view except
your own. This clouds the mind, does it not, Zhaleh? You believe
so staunchly in communism by way of state run socialism even by
the workers that you won’t even take into consideration that maybe
people don’t need or want a government or nanny state to take care
of them and tell them what to do, when to do it, how to do it and
where to do it. </SPAN></FONT>That the USA has come unclean alone
or people are that stupid not to know that the Israel is a bloody
Israel because of the immense support it takes from your
country?<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> Hopefully, people are waking up to this
fact but they are not waking up on account of the bought and paid
for MSM which won’t say one single word in condemnation of
Israel</SPAN></FONT> Which one of the above? On the other hand
those who stand against killing children and wars in Iraq and
Afghanistan, for sure DO NOT support it in Palestine
also…….remember that the role the Wiki is playing is not about
analyzing the current politics, but to access the links to
them primarily ………..</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=yiv186644028MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">What I do
like the most in what the wiki leaks is doing, is not the leaked
information at all, though that would be very necessary for the
ordinary people to see with facts that what America, the land of
democracy is doing to them<B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> These leaks aren’t showing Americans what
American “democracy” is doing to them. The leaks are showing how
arrogant and stupid the United States government is, but if the
American people are not reading the Wikileaks word for word and
are getting their information from the MSM, then they’re not
getting the whole story, are they?</SPAN></FONT>, but let alone
the ability to show how fragile the capitalism/imperialism really
can be, and how from within as one of the rules of the Dialectical
Materialism, will be prone to collapse…… as simple as
that..........when the time for the people’s revolutionary upsurge
will come…………. <B><I><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic; COLOR: black; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"> </SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT
color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">Well, we shall see if an
international revolutionary upsurge comes, won’t we? If another
government is put into place to replace the one that falls apart
(assuming it does) then nothing will have been solved.
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Zhaleh</SPAN></FONT></P>
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historic ascent of humanity, taken as a whole, may be summarized
as a succession of victories of consciousness over blind forces -
in nature, in society, in man
himself.</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><FONT color=#8000ff
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Trotsky</SPAN></SPAN></B></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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