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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=515561322-26032011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>This sounds like a good idea to me. It gets the Congress
aware of the displeasure with the no-fly action we are feeling and can help with
getting an impeachment statement into Congress. Lee </FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B>
ufpj-activist-bounces+leeloe=igc.org@lists.mayfirst.org
[mailto:ufpj-activist-bounces+leeloe=igc.org@lists.mayfirst.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Steve Burns<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 26, 2011 3:17 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Boyle, Francis<BR><B>Cc:</B> ufpj-activist<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[ufpj-activist] Stopping a Ground War in Libya:Impeachment Campaign against
Obama?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I don't offer this as an alternative to an impeachment campaign, but
as a parallel track to pursue (sent out yesterday to membership of <A
href="http://wnpj.org">Wisconsin Network for Peace and Justice</A>)<BR><BR>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 40px"><STRONG>Action Alert: Ask your Rep. to demand
Congressional input on Libya war</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 40px"><STRONG>Background:</STRONG> A bipartisan group
of eight members of the House of Representatives have joined together to draft
<A
href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:H.CON.RES.31:@@@P%20">House
Concurrent Resolution 31</A> "Expressing the sense of Congress that the
President is required to obtain in advance specific statutory authorization for
the use of United States Armed Forces in response to civil unrest in Libya."
As the national organization <A
href="http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/%20">Just Foreign Policy</A> notes, "If
President Obama can bomb Libya without Congressional authorization, then
President Palin can bomb Iran without Congressional authorization." </DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 40px"><STRONG>Take action:</STRONG> Please contact your
Congressional representative (Congressional switchboard: 202-224-3121) to urge
them to sign on as cosponsors to HCR. 31 and to support the bill if it comes to
the floor for a vote. There are currently <A
href="http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.uscongress/legislation.112hconres31">no Wisconsin
cosponsors</A>.</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 40px"><STRONG>Contact for more info:</STRONG> Just
Foreign Policy, (202) 448-2898, <A
href="mailto:info@justforeignpolicy.org">info@justforeignpolicy.org</A>
<BR></DIV><BR>In terms of strategy for preventing ground troops from being sent
to Libya, we know the Obama administration has already been put on the defensive
about its decision to launch air attacks on Libya without Congressional
authorization, so getting members of Congress to press further on this point
could help create a greater reluctance on the part of the Obama administration
to further expand the Lybia war. A focus on the lack of Congressional
authorization could also provide an easy unifying point for those who can't
agree on the validity of the humanitarian argument for intervention.<BR><BR>And
we we know that there are elements within the military that don't want any part
of a ground war in Libya, so this is a case where public pressure and
Congressional pressure could help to widen the split within the Obama
administration between the interventionists and the non-interventionists, and
stop a further escalation of the war.<BR><BR>Steve Burns<BR><A
href="http://wnpj.org">Wisconsin Network for Peace and
Justice</A><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Boyle, Francis <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:FBOYLE@law.illinois.edu">FBOYLE@law.illinois.edu</A>></SPAN>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks
Bob.I agree. I have already approached 3 MOCs about putting in a Bill of
Impeachment against Obama to send him a message. So far, no luck. But if
anyone out there can find one, please have that MOC get in touch with me ASAP.
I did the first draft of the Gonzalez Impeachment Resolution against Bush Sr
and served as Counsel to Henry B on his impeachment campaign.. And Bush
Sr at least had express authorization from Congress under the War Powers
Resolution. So this would be a slam-dunk on drawing up articles of
impeachment. In fact, how about if we start a Campaign to Impeach Obama? That
would get his attention and may shut down this war. In his Memoirs Bush Sr
said that one of the reasons he did not go all the way to Baghdad was that he
feared impeachment—a campaign started by Gonzalez, Ramsey Clark and me just
before the war started. We did not stop the war. But we did have an impact on
Bush Sr invading Iraq. So maybe we can deter Obama from a ground invasion of
Libya with an Impeachment Campaign? </SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">
I am not going to go through all the technical legal issues here. You
can read my book Protesting Power: War, Resistance and Law (Rowman and
Littlefield Inc. 2008), at <A href="http://amazon.com"
target=_blank>amazon.com</A> in paperback version. But the Gonzalez
Impeachment Resolution is below. If we had hundreds of thousands of people
chanting “IMPEACH OBAMA” at the April 8-9 peace rallies, that could make a
difference and prevent a ground invasion.</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Fab.</SPAN></P>
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<P>The Gonzalez Resolution to Impeach George Bush</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Congressional Record, Jan. 16, 1991, at H520-21.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>RESOLUTION OF IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH</P>
<P> </P>
<P>The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a previous order of the House,</P>
<P>the gentleman from Texas [Mr. GONZALEZ] is recognized for 60 minutes.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Mr. GONZALEZ, Madam Speaker, it is with great sadness, and yet with
equally</P>
<P>great, if not greater, conviction, that I introduce today a resolution
of</P>
<P>impeachment of President Bush. It is known as House Resolution 34, and
I</P>
<P>will provide this resolution as introduced to be appended at the end of
my</P>
<P>remarks today.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>At a time when our Nation is deeply divided over the question of</P>
<P>war, we find ourselves on the brink of a world war of such magnitude
that</P>
<P>our minds cannot fully comprehend the destruction that is about to be</P>
<P>leveled. The position we are in is a direct result of the actions of
one</P>
<P>man and the reactions of another. The Iraqi people are as opposed to war
as</P>
<P>are the American people. The difference is that the Iraqi people have
no</P>
<P>choice but to support their country's leader, but the American people
not</P>
<P>only have the right to oppose and speak out in disagreement with the</P>
<P>President, but they have the responsibility to do so if our democracy is
to</P>
<P>be preserved. Today I exercise this constitutional right and
responsibility</P>
<P>to speak out in opposition to war in the Middle East and in support of</P>
<P>removal of our Nation's Chief Executive.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>When I took the oath of office earlier this month, as I had</P>
<P>numerous times before, I swore to uphold the Constitution. The
President's</P>
<P>oath was the same, to uphold the Constitution of the United States. We
did</P>
<P>not pledge an oath of allegiance to the President but to the
Constitution,</P>
<P>which is the highest law of the land. The Constitution provides for
removal</P>
<P>of the President when he has committed high crimes and misdemeanors,</P>
<P>including violations of the principles of the Constitution. President
Bush</P>
<P>has violated these principles.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>My resolution has five articles of impeachment. First, the</P>
<P>President has violated the equal protection clause of the Constitution.
Our</P>
<P>soldiers in the Middle East are overwhelmingly poor white, black, and</P>
<P>Mexican-American or Hispanic-American. They may be volunteers
technically,</P>
<P>but their voluntarism is based on the coercion of a system that has
denied</P>
<P>viable opportunities to these classes of our citizens. Under the</P>
<P>Constitution, all classes of citizens are guaranteed equal protection,
and</P>
<P>calling on the poor and the minorities to fight a war for oil to
preserve</P>
<P>the lifestyles of the wealthy is a denial of the rights of these
soldiers.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Let me add that since 1981 we have suffered the Reagan-Bush and</P>
<P>now the Bush war against the poor, and to add insult to injury, we now
are</P>
<P>asking the poor to fight while here, as a result of this fight, even
the</P>
<P>meager programs that the Congress had seen fit to preserve as a
national</P>
<P>policy will suffer because the money for those programs will be diverted
to</P>
<P>the cause of this unnecessary war.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Article II of this resolution states that the President has</P>
<P>violated the Constitution, Federal law, and the U.N. Charter by
bribing,</P>
<P>intimidating, and threatening others, including the members of the U.N.</P>
<P>Security Council, to support belligerent acts against Iraq. It is clear</P>
<P>that the President paid off members of the U.N. Security Council in
return</P>
<P>for their votes in support of war against Iraq or to abstain from
voting</P>
<P>contrariwise. The debt of Egypt was, for example, forgiven--$7 billion,</P>
<P>without congressional approval. That, I think, casts doubtful validity
on</P>
<P>that Presidential action. The reason for the cancellation of that debt
is</P>
<P>so that we can then provide an equally enormous amount of armament for
Egypt</P>
<P>which it cannot obtain because of the debt outstanding. A $140 million
loan</P>
<P>to China was agreed to. The Soviet Union was promised over $7 billion
in</P>
<P>aid. This is a sum totally unreported in our country but very well</P>
<P>discussed in foreign country presses such as Germany and others.
Colombia</P>
<P>was promised assistance to its armed forces. Zaire was promised
military</P>
<P>assistance and partial forgiveness of its debt. Saudi Arabia was
promised</P>
<P>$12 billion in arms, and more than that. Actually in October, the
President</P>
<P>let them have $2.2 billion, and there was a commitment for $21 billion
more,</P>
<P>but because of the outcry in Congress and the Israeli opposition, that
is</P>
<P>being postponed. But there is still a commitment for $22 billion. I am</P>
<P>sure this month will see the initial efforts to bring about compliance
with</P>
<P>that commitment.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Yemen was threatened with the termination of support, and the United
States</P>
<P>finally paid off $187 million of its debt to the United Nations after
the</P>
<P>vote President Bush sought was made.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>This is all so ironic. When our President ran for the U.S. Senate in
the</P>
<P>1960's, he told the people of Texas that if he would be elected to the</P>
<P>Senate, he would lead the fight to remove the United States from the
United</P>
<P>Nations if what he called Red China at that time was admitted. Fate and</P>
<P>power almighty have a very, very mysterious way of working together. Who
was</P>
<P>to believe during that year in that race in Texas that years later this
same</P>
<P>man, now the President, would be the man the President would appoint to</P>
<P>represent us in the United Nations and welcome Red China as a member of
the</P>
<P>United Nations.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>The vote was bought, and it will be paid for with the lives of our poor</P>
<P>elements who are going to shoulder the fight.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Article III states that the President has conspired to engage in a
massive</P>
<P>war against Iraq, employing methods of mass destruction that will result
in</P>
<P>the killing of tens of thousands of civilians, many of whom will be</P>
<P>children. No civilian lives have yet been lost that we know of, but when
we</P>
<P>start using the weapons of massive destruction that are in place for
this</P>
<P>war, there is no doubt that thousands of innocent civilians will lose
their</P>
<P>lives. As killings occur, the principles laid down in the Nuremberg
trials</P>
<P>will be applicable. Their deaths will not only be a moral outrage, they
will</P>
<P>constitute violations of international law.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Article IV states that the President has committed the United States to
acts</P>
<P>of war without congressional consent and contrary to the U.N. Charter
and</P>
<P>international law. From August 1990 through January 1991 the President</P>
<P>embarked on a course of action that systematically eliminated every
option</P>
<P>for peaceful resolution of the Persian Gulf crisis. Once the President</P>
<P>approached Congress for a declaration of war, 500,000 American soldiers</P>
<P>lives were in jeopardy, rendering any substantive debate by Congress</P>
<P>meaningless. It is also ironic that what we have ended up with now is
that</P>
<P>the President has exchanged about 200 to 250 so-called hostages,
Americans,</P>
<P>all of them employees of oil companies in Kuwait or Iraq, and in exchange
we</P>
<P>now have close to 500,000 American soldiers as hostages. Hostages to
the</P>
<P>whims, the caprices, and the decisions and judgments made by other
leaders,</P>
<P>over which this President and our country has no control, all the way
from</P>
<P>Shamir of Israel to the immigrants in the Saudi sands.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Article 5 states that the President has conspired to commit crimes
against</P>
<P>the peace by leading the United States into aggressive war against Iraq,
in</P>
<P>violation of article 24 of the U.N. Charter, the Nuremberg Charter,
other</P>
<P>international instruments and treaties, and the Constitution of the
United</P>
<P>States.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Again, there is a violation of law by a President, who, believing and
acting</P>
<P>as if he is king, decides for the country, unilaterally, that war is
the</P>
<P>answer.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Madam Speaker, it is a sad day for our country, and it will be an even</P>
<P>sadder day once the fighting starts. President Bush must be stopped. A</P>
<P>divided Congress reflecting the divided country is no way to conduct a
war.</P>
<P>The preservation of lives is at stake, and the preservation of our
country,</P>
<P>indeed, our democracy, is at stake as well.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>I urge my colleagues to support this resolution. All I ask is a hearing,
as</P>
<P>I have before, before the proper committee of proper jurisdiction, and
that</P>
<P>is it. I will argue the case there. The rest is up to the Members'
judgment.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Madam Speaker, I urge interest and support of this resolution, and to
stand</P>
<P>up to the President on behalf of the soldiers who will die, the
civilians</P>
<P>who will be massacred, and the Constitution that will be destroyed if
this</P>
<P>country goes to war in the Middle East.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>102nd Congress</P>
<P>H.Res.86</P>
<P> </P>
<P>1st Session</P>
<P> </P>
<P>____/s/ Henry B.Gonzalez____</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Impeaching George Herbert Walker Bush, President of the United</P>
<P>States, of high crimes and misdemeanors.</P>
<P>_______________________________________________</P>
<P> </P>
<P>IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES</P>
<P> </P>
<P>February 21, 1991 (originally</P>
<P>January 16, 1991)</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Mr. GONZALEZ submitted the following resolution; which was</P>
<P>referred to the Committee on Judiciary.</P>
<P>________________________________________________</P>
<P> </P>
<P>
A RESOLUTION</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Impeaching George Herbert Walker Bush, President of the United</P>
<P>States, of high crimes and misdemeanors.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Impeaching George Herbert Walker Bush, President of the United States,
of</P>
<P>high crimes and misdemeanors.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Resolved, That George Herbert Walker Bush, President of the United States
is</P>
<P>impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following
articles</P>
<P>of impeachment be exhibited to the Senate:</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Articles of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of
the</P>
<P>United States of America in the name of itself and of all of the people
of</P>
<P>the United States of America, against George Herbert Walker Bush,
President</P>
<P>of the United States of America, in maintenance and support of its</P>
<P>impeachment against him for high crimes and misdemeanors.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>
ARTICLE I</P>
<P> </P>
<P>In the conduct of the office of President of the United States, George</P>
<P>Herbert Walker Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully
to</P>
<P>execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of
his</P>
<P>ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United</P>
<P>States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that
the</P>
<P>laws be faithfully executed, has violated the equal protection clause of
the</P>
<P>Constitution. U.S. soldiers in the Middle East are overwhelmingly poor</P>
<P>white, black, and Mexican-American, and their military service is based
on</P>
<P>the coercion of an system that has denied viable economic opportunities
to</P>
<P>these classes of citizens. Under the Constitution, all classes of
citizens</P>
<P>are guaranteed equal protection, and calling on the poor and minorities
to</P>
<P>fight a war for oil to preserve the lifestyles of the wealthy is a denial
of</P>
<P>the rights of these soldiers. In all of this George Herbert Walker Bush
has</P>
<P>acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of</P>
<P>constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law
and</P>
<P>justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Wherefore George Herbert Walker Bush, by such conduct, warrants
impeachment</P>
<P>and trial, and removal from office.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>
ARTICLE II</P>
<P> </P>
<P>In the conduct of the office of President of the United States, George</P>
<P>Herbert Walker bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully
to</P>
<P>execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of
his</P>
<P>ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United</P>
<P>States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that
the</P>
<P>laws be faithfully executed, has violated the U.S. Constitution, federal
law</P>
<P>and the United Nations Charter by bribing, intimidating and threatening</P>
<P>others, including the members of the United Nations Security Council,
to</P>
<P>support belligerent acts against Iraq. In all of this George Herbert
Walker</P>
<P>Bush has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and
subversive</P>
<P>of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law
and</P>
<P>justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Wherefore George Herbert Walker Bush, by such conduct, warrants
impeachment</P>
<P>and trial, and removal from office.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>
ARTICLE III</P>
<P> </P>
<P>In the conduct of the office of President of the United States, George</P>
<P>Herbert Walker Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully
to</P>
<P>execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of
his</P>
<P>ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United</P>
<P>States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that
the</P>
<P>laws be faithfully executed, has prepared, planned, and conspired to
engage</P>
<P>in a massive war against Iraq employing methods of mass destruction
that</P>
<P>will result in the killing of tens of thousands of civilians, many of
whom</P>
<P>will be children. This planning includes the placement and potential use
of</P>
<P>nuclear weapons, and the use of such indiscriminate weapons and massive</P>
<P>killings by serial bombardment, or otherwise, of civilians violates the</P>
<P>Hague Conventions of 1907 and 1923, the Geneva Conventions of 1949 and</P>
<P>Protocol I thereto, the Nuremberg Charter, the Genocide Convention and
the</P>
<P>United Nations Declaration of Human Rights. In all of this George
Herbert</P>
<P>Walker Bush has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President
and</P>
<P>subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the
cause</P>
<P>of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the
United</P>
<P>States.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Wherefore George Herbert Walker Bush, by such conduct, warrants
impeachment</P>
<P>and trial, and removal from office.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>
ARTICLE IV</P>
<P> </P>
<P>In the conduct of the office of President of the United States, George</P>
<P>Herbert Walker Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully
to</P>
<P>execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of
his</P>
<P>ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United</P>
<P>States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that
the</P>
<P>laws be faithfully executed, has committed the United States to acts of
war</P>
<P>without congressional consent and contrary to the United Nations Charter
and</P>
<P>international law. From August, 1990, through January, 1991, the
President</P>
<P>embarked on a course of action that systematically eliminated every
option</P>
<P>for peaceful resolution of the Persian Gulf crisis. Once the President</P>
<P>approached Congress for a declaration of war, 500,000 American
soldiers'</P>
<P>lives were in jeopardy - rendering any substantive debate by Congress</P>
<P>meaningless. The President has not received a declaration of war by</P>
<P>Congress, and in contravention of the written word, the spirit, and the</P>
<P>intent of the U.S. Constitution has declared that he will go to war</P>
<P>regardless of the views of Congress and the American people. In failing
to</P>
<P>seek a declaration of war, and in declaring his intent to violate the</P>
<P>Constitution in disregarding the acts of Congress - including the War
Powers</P>
<P>Resolution - George Herbert Walker Bush has acted in a manner contrary
to</P>
<P>his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to
the</P>
<P>great prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest
injury</P>
<P>of the people of the United States.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Wherefore George Herbert Walker Bush, by such conduct, warrants
impeachment</P>
<P>and trial, and removal from office.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>
ARTICLE V</P>
<P> </P>
<P>In the conduct of the office of President of the United States, George</P>
<P>Herbert Walker Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully
to</P>
<P>execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of
his</P>
<P>ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United</P>
<P>States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that
the</P>
<P>laws be faithfully executed, has planned, prepared, and conspired to
commit</P>
<P>crimes against the peace by leading the United States into aggressive
war</P>
<P>against Iraq in violation of Article 2(4) of the United Nations Charter,
the</P>
<P>Nuremberg Charter, other international instruments and treaties, and
the</P>
<P>Constitution of the United States. In all of this George Herbert Walker
Bush</P>
<P>has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive
of</P>
<P>constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law
and</P>
<P>justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Wherefore George Herbert Walker Bush, by such conduct, warrants
impeachment</P>
<P>and trial, and removal from office.</P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href="mailto:naiman.uiuc@gmail.com"
target=_blank>naiman.uiuc@gmail.com</A> [mailto:<A
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Robert Naiman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 26, 2011
2:20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Boyle, Francis<BR><B>Cc:</B> <A
href="mailto:jeffleys@vcnv.org" target=_blank>jeffleys@vcnv.org</A>;
ufpj-activist<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ufpj-activist] Stopping a Ground War in
Libya</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">Congress could prohibit the
introduction of US ground troops into Libya. History would suggest that the
time for pushing this is now, not waiting until ground action is imminent, at
which point it might be too late to stop the train. </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Has anyone talked to Members of Congress about prohibiting
the introduction of US ground forces into Libya?</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Boyle, Francis <<A
href="mailto:FBOYLE@law.illinois.edu"
target=_blank>FBOYLE@law.illinois.edu</A>> wrote:</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">To
continue with the analogy, although it is not precise, but it is all we have
to go on. Basically the Obama/Clinton people are using the Libyan Opposition
on the ground like they used the KLA on the ground in Serbia
during the bombing campaign. But again, compared to Serbia, Libya is pretty
defenseless. So my guess is that the timeframe for a ground invasion is
a lot shorter than 78 days.</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Boyle, Francis <BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 26,
2011 11:47 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Boyle, Francis; <A href="mailto:jeffleys@vcnv.org"
target=_blank>jeffleys@vcnv.org</A>; ufpj-activist<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[ufpj-activist] Fw: More from Gilbert Achcar (Libya
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Many
of the Obama people were Clinton people when he bombed the hell out of Serbia.
That bombing campaign took 78 days. They were threatening a land
invasion all along. Serbia then capitulated. Ghadafy is not going to
capitulate. So if Ghadafy is not overthrown, at best we might have 78 days
to head off a land invasion. The difference is that Serbia had one
of the most powerful armies in Europe. Libya does not. So the time-frame for a
land invasion could be a lot shorter. Maybe a month if we are
lucky.</SPAN></P>
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Building</SPAN></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Champaign, IL 61820
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> ufpj-activist-bounces+fboyle=<A
href="http://law.illinois.edu" target=_blank>law.illinois.edu</A>@<A
href="http://lists.mayfirst.org" target=_blank>lists.mayfirst.org</A>
[mailto:<A href="mailto:ufpj-activist-bounces%2Bfboyle"
target=_blank>ufpj-activist-bounces+fboyle</A>=<A
href="http://law.illinois.edu" target=_blank>law.illinois.edu</A>@<A
href="http://lists.mayfirst.org" target=_blank>lists.mayfirst.org</A>] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Boyle, Francis<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:42
AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:jeffleys@vcnv.org"
target=_blank>jeffleys@vcnv.org</A>; ufpj-activist<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[ufpj-activist] Fw: More from Gilbert Achcar (Libya
debate)</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">GREAT!
Let’s move forward from there!</SPAN></P>
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Building</SPAN></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> ufpj-activist-bounces+fboyle=<A
href="http://law.illinois.edu" target=_blank>law.illinois.edu</A>@<A
href="http://lists.mayfirst.org" target=_blank>lists.mayfirst.org</A>
[mailto:<A href="mailto:ufpj-activist-bounces%2Bfboyle"
target=_blank>ufpj-activist-bounces+fboyle</A>=<A
href="http://law.illinois.edu" target=_blank>law.illinois.edu</A>@<A
href="http://lists.mayfirst.org" target=_blank>lists.mayfirst.org</A>] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Jeff Leys<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:40
AM<BR><B>To:</B> ufpj-activist<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ufpj-activist] Fw: More
from Gilbert Achcar (Libya debate)</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">I agree with focusing on ending
U.S. / NATO military action in LIbya before there is a ground
invasion.<BR><BR>Jeff Leys</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Boyle, Francis <<A
href="mailto:FBOYLE@law.illinois.edu"
target=_blank>FBOYLE@law.illinois.edu</A>> wrote:</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Why
don’t we focus on how to stop this war before there is a ground
invasion?</SPAN></P>
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Building</SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">504 E. Pennsylvania
Ave.</SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Champaign, IL 61820
USA</SPAN></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> ufpj-activist-bounces+fboyle=<A
href="http://law.illinois.edu" target=_blank>law.illinois.edu</A>@<A
href="http://lists.mayfirst.org" target=_blank>lists.mayfirst.org</A>
[mailto:<A href="mailto:ufpj-activist-bounces%2Bfboyle"
target=_blank>ufpj-activist-bounces+fboyle</A>=<A
href="http://law.illinois.edu" target=_blank>law.illinois.edu</A>@<A
href="http://lists.mayfirst.org" target=_blank>lists.mayfirst.org</A>] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Jeff Leys<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:31
AM<BR><B>To:</B> ufpj-activist</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[ufpj-activist] Fw: More from Gilbert Achcar (Libya
debate)</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">Hmmm....ZMAG / ZNET is now a
warmongering publication? Is ideological purity now a test to engage in social
justice work? And whose ideological purity?<BR><BR>I believe that it is
essential that debate and discussion continues regarding U.S. / NATO military
actions in Libya even while engaging in action to limit and challenge these
military actions. Developing a solid critique of U.S. / NATO military
engagement that is unique to Libya is important to challenging U.S.
engagement, rather than merely applying a cookie cutter / boiler plate that
fails to address unique conditions.<BR><BR>Regrettably, it would seem that an
endeavor to develop such a critique and to grapple with unique circumstances
in Libya means that one is a war monger. Oh well.....so it goes.<BR><BR>Jeff
Leys</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Boyle, Francis <<A
href="mailto:FBOYLE@law.illinois.edu"
target=_blank>FBOYLE@law.illinois.edu</A>> wrote:</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">If
Barry’s Bombing Campaign does not work, a ground invasion is in the works.
Right now there are 4000+ Marines off the coast of Libya waiting to
invade. We need to stop this war NOW before that happens. No point wasting our
time debating with warmongers and dealing with warmongering garbage and
reading warmongering publications such as ZMAG/ZNET.</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Fab</SPAN></P>
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Boyle</SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Law
Building</SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">504 E. Pennsylvania
Ave.</SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Champaign, IL 61820
USA</SPAN></B></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Boyle, Francis <BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 26,
2011 8:12 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Steve Burns'<BR><B>Cc:</B> Ellie Ommani;
ufpj-activist<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [ufpj-activist] Fw: More from Gilbert
Achcar (Libya debate)</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">I
already sent about 10 posts to this list setting forth my professional
opinions, including a debate I had live on Al Jazeera which is pro-war.
You can access them if you want. And I will continue to send such posts to
this list as I produce them. But I am not going to waste my time arguing with
warmongering garbage on a list devoted to peace and justice.</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Hey!
Hey! LBJ!</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">How
many Africans?</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Did
Barry Bomb today?</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Fab</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Francis A.
Boyle</SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Law
Building</SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">504 E. Pennsylvania
Ave.</SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Champaign, IL 61820
USA</SPAN></B></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href="mailto:steveburnswnpj@gmail.com"
target=_blank>steveburnswnpj@gmail.com</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:steveburnswnpj@gmail.com"
target=_blank>steveburnswnpj@gmail.com</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Steve
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday,
March 26, 2011 7:52 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Boyle, Francis</SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Ellie Ommani; ufpj-activist</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[ufpj-activist] Fw: More from Gilbert Achcar (Libya
debate)</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Frankly, I've had it with the incessant name-calling by two
participants in this discussion, Ellie Ommani and Francis Boyle. Here's what
we've gotten from them, in just the last three emails they've sent:
"warmonger", "childish", "intellectually empty", "bourgeois", "garbage."</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR>This isn't an honest effort to have a debate, it's
an effort to shut down debate by attempting to persuade us that certain views
are so heretical that they don't need to be addressed seriously. <BR><BR>And
name-calling isn't helping the anti-interventionist side. If you take this
issue seriously, and I know that you do, then please give us a <I>serious</I>
response to Mr. Accar's arguments, rather than insinuations that he's an
infiltrator working for the Pentagon.<BR><BR>In solidarity,<BR>Steve Burns
<BR><A href="http://wnpj.org" target=_blank>Wisconsin Network for Peace and
Justice</A></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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