[PAA-Discuss] [HoustonPF] Re: Ho Hum: More Wikileaks"Chickenfeed"
Ron and Kris Graham
graham2639 at mindspring.com
Thu Dec 2 21:59:44 EST 2010
Well, Glory Hallelujah! Somebody else thinks like we do, Robert! Who in the
hell IS Julian Assange really? You and I spoke this morning during Democracy
NOW and it struck me that Amy Goodman was poking and prodding Assange's
lawyer about how Assange was protecting himself and what he was busy working
on and if that work involved thousands of more "leaks" to be disseminated
widely. Juan Gonzales stated flat out that Assange was hiding somewhere in
the UK! I almost shit my pants! To the lawyer's credit, she remained calm
and her speech was very measured. She didn't give away a single thing. Did
Amy and Juan think she was just going to flat out tell them where Assange
was holed up!? LOL! What's the angle here by Goodman/Gonzales and Assange
anyway?? You know as well as I do that the Ford Foundation has CIA ties, and
the Ford Foundation contributes monies to the Pacifica Foundation. This
tells me there is gate keeping going on. You and I also cock an eyebrow to
the fact that Assange doesn't seem interested at all in "false conspiracy
theories" like 9/11. Hmmmmmm........who is Mr. Assange beholden to, I
wonder? Is he a Zionist? Does he have some sort of relationship with the
Israeli Mossad and Binyamin Netanyahu? If the Israelis wanted to find his
skinny ass they could and they would. They are some ruthless and cunning
bastards. Look at the dead nuclear scientists in Iran. Some reports state
that the hits could have come from somebody within Iran, however, I am more
inclined to believe it was either elements in the CIA or the Mossad that put
those magnet bombs on the cars of those scientists and blew them up.
The plot thickens........
Kris
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From: robert [mailto:gram.graham at sbcglobal.net]
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Cc: 'Ken Freeland'; 'Julianne Gustafson-Lira'; 'Bart Boyce'
Subject: RE: [PAA-Discuss] [HoustonPF] Re: Ho Hum: More
Wikileaks"Chickenfeed"
http://palestinethinktank.com/2010/12/01/tariq-shadid-wikileaks-leaks-toxic-
acid-in-every-direction-except-to-israel/?utm_source=feedburner
<http://palestinethinktank.com/2010/12/01/tariq-shadid-wikileaks-leaks-toxic
-acid-in-every-direction-except-to-israel/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=
email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PalestineThinkTank+%28Palestine+Think+Tank%29>
&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PalestineThinkTank+%28Palestine+Think
+Tank%29Let us ponder for a second about the meaning of 'leaking'. When
something is leaking, it is usually understood that some fluid substance
that is supposed to be flowing in a certain direction, is escaping from its
designed route because of a defect in the structure that was built to guide
it. Usually, if you have a leaking pipe in your water system, your main
problem is that you are unable to control the flow of it, and water goes
into directions where you don't want it to be going.
However, the definition of 'Wikileaking' seems to be following entirely
different laws of nature. Indeed, the information is flowing away from the
secret pipelines it was originally guided into. However, the strange thing
about 'Wikileaking' is that Israel, a country widely known for its secret
dealings and cunning intelligence service, is managing to keep dry feet in
spite of the massive political flooding allegedly caused by Wikileaks'
founding father, Julian Assange.
The lack of control that is so typical of other forms of 'leaking',
certainly does not seem to apply to 'Wikileaking' - instead it looks like it
is under perfect control, and carefully guided in such a way that it only
serves the interests of one state, namely that of Israel.
Assange takes a leak, the world jumps up
Barely a country in the world that is actively involved in Middle East and
other international affairs, either by choice or by geographical location,
has been spared by Assange's latest opening of his Pandora's box of
revelations. It is hard to visit a news source these days, without the word
'Wikileaks' jumping into your view at least once, and revealing some
scandalous backdoor deal, secret agreement or embarrassing hidden
relationship between governments who on the surface seem to be diametrically
opposed to each other in the political spectrum.
Since the list of countries that have faced these embarrassments includes
Obama's United States, many anti-imperialist activists around the world have
been anxiously awaiting the latest leaks, and are now engaging in
discussions about the implications of many of these so-called astounding
revelations. Julian Assange is being hailed worldwide by people who are
critical of their governments as the activist who was able to embarrass
governments, helped only by a small group of independent supporters. His
star is rising rapidly, and although sounds of cynicism can be heard here
and there, the overwhelming noise resounding in progressive circles is one
of loud cheers for this long-awaited 'champion of the ordinary man'.
What many seem to fail to be noticing however, is that although the list of
countries that were painfully embarrassed by the publication of their secret
cables, memo's and meetings, includes the Palestinian Authority, Saudi
Arabia and other Gulf states, Egypt and the United States - where Obama is
suffering from serious problems from a 'Tea Party' he was not invited to -
one of the main actors in the dirty political game of Middle East
animosities and alliances is remaining completely unharmed: Israel.
Much ado about old news
What are Wikileaks telling us? That Saudi Arabia poured oil on the flames
against Iran? We already knew that. That Abbas' administration as well as
the Egyptian government were very well informed about Israel's genocidal
military assault on Gaza in the winter of 2009? There is nothing new about
that either. The list goes on and on, and the main victims of embarrassment
are leaders of Arab governments. But what is so new about that? Doesn't
almost every Arab in the world who reads newspapers, watches Al Jazeera and
has a certain degree of understanding of Middle East politics, already know
about the extent and scope of secret relations in the region? Even many
people living outside of the Arab world are largely aware of this.
Oana Lungescu, spokeswoman for NATO, called Wikileaks' revelations about the
presence of American nuclear missiles in Europe - mainly the Netherlands,
Belgium and Germany - 'dangerous' on November 29. Why exactly would
something be dangerous, if it is a commonly known fact that has now only
been confirmed yet again? Didn't earlier revelations have no effect, so why
would these new ones do that? Does the fact that Obama, Sarkozy, and the
Chinese leadership all have condemned Wikileaks and its founder, make any
significant difference?
The answer to these questions is: yes, these revelations are indeed causing
unpleasant domestic situations all around the world, and creating electoral
problems and other political embarrassments for governments everywhere -
except in one place, namely Israel.
No worries: Assange will tell you who to trust
Julian Assange, 'master revealer' of international conspiracies, apparently
also is highly irritated by people questioning the events of 9/11. In an
interview in the Belfast Telegraph on July 19, 2010, he was asked about the
9/11 attack, and answered: "I'm constantly annoyed that people are
distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide
evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud."
Apparently Julian 'Robin Hood' Assange finds the story of pilots who fly an
airplane full of people straight into a humongous skyscraper full of
unsuspecting citizens, just because some hysterical hijacker is holding a
box-cutter against their jugular veins, perfectly believable. He apparently
also believes that when you fly an airplane into the top floors of one of
the world's largest buildings, in a horizontal direction, the building will
not only spontaneously collapse all the way down to its basement in a
vertical direction, but will indeed be transformed into a powdery dust, not
leaving behind even one piece of debris that is larger than a ballpoint pen
- except of course the completely undamaged passport of one of the alleged
hijackers, that was miraculously found among the ruins of the World Trade
Center.
Unless you, dear reader, also believe in fairy tales, this should certainly
make you wonder. So much for your credibility, mr Assange.
Cui Bono?
In politics there is a golden rule for understanding what may be the driving
force behind unexpected mysterious events. This rule is known as 'Cui Bono',
which is Latin for: 'who benefits?'
Browse through all the news sources available on the latest Wikileaks
revelation, and try to find even only one revelation that actually damages
Israel, even though so many of the revealed documents are directly or
indirectly connected to Middle East politics, and to a large extent to
Israeli affairs. Did you find any document among them that either creates
difficulties for the government of the zionist entity, or even slightly
embarrasses it? Think about it well, you will find that the answer is a very
simple "No".
Does it not strike you as interesting or remarkable, that many of the
revelations about Middle East affairs are of direct benefit to Israel? If it
hasn't, read them again, and give it some thought.
Cui bono? Israel. Therefore, who is the prime suspect behind the phenomenon
'Julian Assange'? You tell me, or just prove me wrong by showing me one
Wikileaks document that would make Binjamin Netanyahu and his rogue
companions scratch their heads, or even become only slightly uncomfortable.
My suspicion grows stronger every day, and is not deterred by Interpol's
announcement on December 1 that Julian Assange is wanted for an alleged
sexual harassment case in Sweden. It is obvious that he is a man who has
angered many people of power, regardless of whether he is actually guilty in
that harassment case or not. The problem however is that none of these
people of power are Israeli, and that says a lot. You never bite the hand
that feeds you, do you, Julian?
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From: discuss-bounces at paa-tx.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at paa-tx.org] On
Behalf Of Ron and Kris Graham
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 7:01 AM
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guerrillatheatrebrigade at yahoogroups.com
Cc: 'Ken Freeland'; 'Julianne Gustafson-Lira'; 'Bart Boyce'
Subject: Re: [PAA-Discuss] [HoustonPF] Re: Ho Hum: More
Wikileaks"Chickenfeed"
How do you know that many documents about Israel are coming, Eric? Where are
you getting the number 4,000 in regard to Nepal? Cite your sources. Look,
Eric, 9/11 was the catalyst that got the ball rolling on all the criminality
that has occurred these last 9+ years. The U.S. never had any credibility to
begin with. People all over the world know that the United States government
sanctioned torture, kidnapping, murder, looting and all kinds of ill shit.
Anybody paying attention in this country and abroad realized a long time ago
even before 9/11 that the United States was not the shining city on the
hill. Even so called progressives here in Houston and elsewhere are inclined
to put the events of 9/11 to bed and just forget about them. 9/11 was the
biggest terrorist attack in U.S. history, and yet people seem willing to
stick their heads in the sand and not question who was really at fault for
those 3,000 deaths. That event was responsible for beginning the never
ending war on terror and the repression of people in the Middle East and
elsewhere as well as the shredding of civil rights here at home. I'd say
9/11 is THE event that people need to reinvestigate because everything that
has followed is a DIRECT result of that day and those events.
Kris
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From: HoustonPF at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HoustonPF at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Eric Ribellarsi
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:21 AM
To: 'PAA'; notinourname at yahoogroups.com;
guerrillatheatrebrigade at yahoogroups.com; graham2639 at mindspring.com
Cc: 'Bart Boyce'; 'Ken Freeland'; 'Julianne Gustafson-Lira'; 'HoustonPF'
Subject: [HoustonPF] Re: Ho Hum: More Wikileaks "Chickenfeed"
Hey everyone:
I have to strongly disagree. The majority of the cables aren't even publicly
available. Of course the cable the Us media will choose to report on will be
the uninteresting ones. That is there role. But many documents about Israel
are coming, as are 4000 documents related to US intervention in Nepal that
may show the US's plans for a coup attempt there.
This is a huge fucking deal. The US empire is literally shocked and is being
forced to send damage control emails
(http://southasiarev.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/u-s-ambassador-to-nepal-first-
damage-control-over-coming-leaks/) to it's puppets all over the planet. This
is a blow to its very ability to orchestrate and run things. For once:
people are spying on it, instead of the other way around!
The people who run wikileaks now have their lives in danger, and they need
our support and solidarity. And the people of the world need us to help
promote the more profound things that come out of these leaks.
If we are so set in a particular view of exactly what a blow to US
imperialism's credibility with look like (ie. 9/11 truth), then we will miss
it when a real blow actually does come. A working group of us here in
Houston are going to be looking particularly at the Nepal leaks when they
become available, and trying to process them and expose what is in them. I
think that's the kind of response we should be having to this.
your comrade and friend, until we win (and even then),
eric r
--- On Wed, 12/1/10, Ron and Kris Graham <graham2639 at mindspring.com> wrote:
From: Ron and Kris Graham <graham2639 at mindspring.com>
Subject: Ho Hum: More Wikileaks "Chickenfeed"
To: "'PAA'" <discuss at paa-tx.org>, notinourname at yahoogroups.com,
guerrillatheatrebrigade at yahoogroups.com
Cc: "'Bart Boyce'" <bartboyce at sbcglobal.net>, "'Ken Freeland'"
<diogenesquest at gmail.com>, "'Julianne Gustafson-Lira'"
<liramex123 at yahoo.com>, "'HoustonPF'" <HoustonPF at yahoogroups.com>, "Eric
Ribellarsi" <red_star_1949 at yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 6:43 PM
Has no one noticed that Israel comes out smelling like a rose from these
Wikileaks? Has no one noticed that Israel appears vindicated in its call for
bombing Iran into the Stone Age? Has no one noticed these Wikileaks cables
don't tell anybody much of anything that he or she did not already know or
suspect unless he or she was living in a cave? Who is Wikileaks? Who is
Julian Assange and what is his angle? No one seems to know where he is.
Assange is probably hanging out in CIA headquarters in Langley , VA or holed
up in Israel somewhere blowing Binyamin Netanyahu. Has no one noticed that a
lot of these cables give justification for bombing Iran because Saudi Arabia
and some other unnamed Arab states supposedly feel threatened by Iran ?
Bullshit!!! A poll was taken in the Middle East and 80% of Arab people feel
ISRAEL is the #1 threat to the region followed by 77% thinking the U.S. is
the second biggest threat. Only 10% of Arabs felt like Iran was the major
threat. That information was reported by Noam Chomsky on Democracy NOW by
the way. The dictators in the various Arab countries want the United States
or Israel to bomb Iran . Even if Iran did have a nuclear weapon, who the
fuck cares?! The United States is sitting on a stockpile of nuclear
weapons!! So are Israel , Great Britain , India , China , France , Pakistan
, and North Korea !!! What hypocrisy!! Is it any surprise that members of
the State Department and others call the leaders in other countries names
and speak disparagingly about them? This is not news.
These cables show the United States government for what it is and that is a
chicken shit failed imperial superpower with a god complex. That's not
fucking news, people!! Has anybody been paying attention or has everybody's
head been up their collective asses?! Maybe the American people are so
fucking uninformed and brainwashed that they think these cables are news! I
suppose when one listens to the MSM all day and reads the rag newspapers and
spends all his or her time working, shopping, drinking beer or fucking then
these Wikileaks cables are news. Of course, the fucking MSM is bought and
paid for! They know who they serve and it sure as hell isn't the American
public. Of course, the information from the cables was cherry picked by the
U.S. media! Is that surprising? Of course not, if you've been paying
attention.
I'm with Gordon Duff. I think Wikileaks is a CIA/Mossad tool. Why do we not
read any cables about 9/11 which was the catalyst for all the
unconstitutional and illegal shit that has followed?! Has anybody other than
Robert Graham inquired about that?! I noticed that nobody even answered
Robert's e-mail about that little fact. The U.S. government needed its new
"Pearl Harbor" so they could start endless wars and build WMD 'til the cows
come home and they damned well got their new Pearl Harbor. Why the majority
of people in the United States seem to care little for that and seem willing
to put 9/11 to bed and just accept the bogus 9/11 Commission report (cover
up) is beyond me. The old canard, "My country right or wrong" must be to
blame. People just don't want to think. They must want to be told what to
do, when to do it, how to do it and where to do it. The majority of the
American people are zombies.
Kris
Ho Hum: More Wikileaks "Chickenfeed"
By Gordon Duff
Global Research <http://www.globalresearch.ca> , December 1, 2010
Veterans <http://veteranstoday.com> Today
The new Wikileaks claims the US undereported by 15,000, the deaths of Iraqi
"civilians." With the numbers listed by the military as little as 10% or
less of the actual deaths, bumping up the numbers must be a joke. More
leaks about torture and killings, Iraqi torture and the US "looking away?"
More idiocy. With the US sending "suspects" around the world on rendition
flights, sent to secret prisons and obvious to anyone with a brain, to
shallow graves, this Wikileak is simply another sideshow, more
"chickenfeed."
Things have already come apart in Iraq . Why leak this now? Regular news
stories are actually going much further than these "leaks." It doesn't take
a rocket scientist to see the agenda here, an agenda with absolutely nothing
to do with enlightening the world.
What does it prove, any of it? For sure, we see one thing. Everything
leaked is carefully screened to have nothing of real value. With Mossad
running around Mosul , operating out of Erbil , supplying and advising the
terrorist PKK, not a word is mentioned. Instead, poor Iranians are swimming
the Euphrates with explosives strapped to their chests.
Get real.
Thousands of tons of explosives were "mislaid" in Iraq . The US failed to
secure Saddam's weapons depots which were looted. These stockpiles were
vast. The idea that anyone would need to bring weapons into Iraq is insane,
simply another Israeli ploy to pre-stage an attack on Iran . Any fool can
see this in seconds.
In fact, there are more assault rifles in Iraq than people.
While trying to blame Iran , is Wikileaks reporting the hundreds of
thousands of weapons bought by the US that simply disappeared in Iraq ? It
is easier to buy an assault rifle or RPG in Iraq than to get potato chips.
This need to blame Iran , the idea that "secret agents" are smuggling
ordnance into Iraq , a country loaded with explosives, is insane. Who would
believe it? The idiotic controlled press?
What will we see if we watch the stories coming out? Where will the press
be told to manipulate the public to look?
THE LIES BEGIN.
<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-23/pentagon-documents-show-u-s-ignore
d-torture-abuse-reports-guardian-says.html> "Iran's Training for Iraqi
Militants Outlined in Leaked Pentagon Documents"
Bloomberg and The Guardian start the ball rolling. Imagine Iraq , a country
with the 3rd largest military force in the world, needing "trainers" from
Iran . Iran with its elite Republican Guard and one million man army has
more people with military training that Britain , a fact The Guardian seems
oblivious to. One minute, Iraq is building nuclear weapons and threatening
the region with SCUD missiles, the next it is having to turn to "Iranian
experts" to build pipe bombs. Has any nation ever suffered such a case of
collective amnesia in the area of weapons technology before?
As the days pass, we can expect more and more fanciful accounts of Iranian
spies, trainers, kidnappers and terrorists, each story more sensational and
fictitious than the last.
There is a more insidious aspect to Wikileaks. Through representing itself
as "anti-war" and "public spirited," it carries forward a globalist agenda,
promoting war, promoting regional strife, coincidentally all directly tied
to Israel 's "hit list," the nations Israel openly advocates someone else
destroys.
One could easily describe Wikileaks as a Mossad PsyOp.
Thus, Wikileaks is very effective in derailing genuine dialog and meaningful
dissent.
ATTORNEY GENERAL GONZALES TOLD US TORTURE WAS GOOD FOR US
Americans proved long ago that they were immune to guilt about torture and
killing. In fact, polls show that the more religious an American, the more
willing they are to accept brutality, and few countries are as "religious'
as America . No other country in recent times has killed as many people as
America , even overshadowing the ethnic cleansing in Rwanda and Bosnia or
the "situation" in Israel .
As with the earlier "leak," Wikileaks has the ability to go through hundreds
of thousands of pages of documents, carefully eliminating any blackmarket
dealings, drug running or, as with Iraq , the massive corruption and theft
of oil.
There are dozens of subjects that seem to be carefully screened from any
Wikileak. Even the Department of Defense, not so secretly, thanks Wikileaks
for holding back really embarrassing information. "Held back" information
is, of course, blackmail.
Who is Wikileaks?
Is Wikileaks Israel ?
Only Israel has the penetration of the Department of Defense that would
allow this kind of spying. Not only can they do it, they also have so many
spies in the American chain of command, they could easily prevent it. Who
has the facilities to gather and filter this much data? Who would want to?
With the biggest story in Iraq the falsified intelligence on "weapons of
mass destruction," why didn't Wikileaks get us documents on this? We know
that the military had orders to try to falsify documents showing that they
found fully operating nuclear, biological and chemical warfare facilities.
These would have made good reading along with the thousands of pages of
reports about how these stories would be fabricated. Even the "controlled
press" wouldn't touch them although they are still out there.
The lies.
Exposing this real Iraq scandal would do some good, except for one thing,
friends of Israel inside the Pentagon were the creators of this program. Is
this why Wikileaks dodges the real issues? Is it because the trail for much
of what happened in Iraq heads directly to Tel Aviv?
Who even cares about Iraq this many years later?
Look at the watered down reports about American support of Al Qaeda. The US
is blamed for accidentally helping Al Qaeda by organizing the Sons of Iraq.
In truth, the US actually reorganized the Baathists, something far worse
than the imaginary construct "Al Qaeda." Not a word is said about this.
One of the biggest scams of the Iraq "experience" was the looting of oil
resources. Most easily verified is the theft of oil from the Kirkuk fields
through the Kirkuk/Ceyhan pipeline, which goes to the Mediterranean through
Turkey . Ships that load oil are shown on locator sights run by insurance
companies and even the US Coast Guard. Their tonnage is available, how many
ships, how long. When doing the math, how much oil is loaded compared to
how much is paid for, billions and billions of dollars of oil is missing.
When Americans were paying $4 a gallon for gas, how many knew the oil that
made the gasoline was "free" to the oil companies? Who spit the take on
this? Who was paid? How much was stolen through Basra ? Were the British
involved?
Then we have Fallujah. We are told America "carpet bombed" civilians and
"ethnically cleansed" the area, as we are now informed, for no reason. The
version the Army told is being debunked along with the phony stories of the
"embedded" press. Nothing on this hit Wikileaks either.
We are also noting high levels of radiation
<http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/10/15/38-hiroshimas-hidden-how%e2%80%99d-
the-army-do-that/> there and a health crisis that can only be described as
shocking. Where is Wikileaks on this REAL story?
There is little doubt that Wikileaks is a "sideshow' run by an intelligence
agency with dozens of agents inside the Department of Defense. Only Israel
has this capability, having penetrated Defense to such a degree they run it
as their own. What is the agenda of Wikileaks? Is it revealing the truth?
If so, why is the truth censored and watered down to such a degree as to be
"non-news" as the earlier leak had been. In fact, most stories about leaks
are simply speculation and most "leaks" are little than "chickenfeed."
The last leak was an attack on Pakistan . Wikileaks tried to make a case
for Pakistan running the Taliban in Afghanistan . However, the Taliban are
Pashtun and don't care much for Pakistan , they are "blood enemies."
Because of this, Israel and India have found them useful allies against
Pakistan , the only Islamic nuclear power. Aid of all kinds gets to the
Taliban from the Mossad and RAW, something Wikileaks worked hard to keep
secret.
Real leaks by former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds proved that documents
exist showing that rendition flights were used to ferry terrorists around,
move drugs and tons of cash. With bales of cash leaving Afghanistan every
day, why is it that not one page, not one word of any of this, things we
know are in American files, hit Wikileaks?
Why does Wikileaks spend more time hiding things than revealing them? When
the story dies down, are the Julian Assange rape allegations going to be
dragged out again to give the story more play? Last time they "double
dipped" on that one, first charges, then no charges, then charges. It was
like a badly written "soap opera." We have just received reports of Julian
Assange fleeing Pentagon death squads. We are told he has virtually
disappeared off the face of the planet. We also have a schedule of public
appearances and interviews for Assange, who will mysteriously re-materialize
when needed. Ah, to have powers such as those.
What about this new "leak?"
This one may be aimed at Iran .
Anyone surprised or shocked to find that Iraqi security forces killed or
tortured people is living on their own private planet. These were Saddam's
killers and torturers first. Then they became ours. What do killers and
torturers do?
There was one reason for the invasion of Iraq with all the lies, all the
killing, all the corruption. Israel wanted Iraq destroyed. Will Wikileaks
ever get to something real?
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