Re: Movie Screening by World Can't Wait

Submitted by PAAMember on December 2, 2005 - 10:00am. ::





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Sounds like a great movie and a great cause that all of us or at least our
Impeach group should support. I don't know much about the World Can't Wait but
think it is sponsored by the RCP. Is that correct? If so, does that worry people
on this list? Should we work with them or at least support their actions? Would
appreciate some feedback on this.

Charlie M


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Submitted by PAAMember on December 2, 2005 - 12:00pm.





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Herb,

Thanks for the very informative feedback. Don't know if PAA has a
position on this but if not, we need to develop one. The email describing the
film I mentioned is copied below the copy of your email below. As I said, it
sounds great, and based on what you have said, as well as an email I received
from the person who sent it, I would like to see the film and would encourage
others to see it also. If anyone has reservations about this, please
advise, and I recommend that the comments be sent to the entire list and not
just to me.

Charlie M

 

In a message dated 12/2/05 9:10:09 A.M. Central Standard Time,
writes:

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asked whether World Can't Wait is sponsored by the Revolutionary
Communist
Party, and if so, whether PAA should work with World Can't Wait
(WCW) or
at least support their actions.

The first question came up at the
Houston Peace and Justice Center board
meeting in November, because WCW
applied for membership. The person
representing WCW said that the local
group included a few RCP folks, but
that it was a separate entity. 
He was vague (perhaps intentionally?) about
the origins and mission of the
organization, so the Board postponed the
application and requested more
transparency in advance of the next meeting
if WCW chose to continue
seeking membership.

I like the RCP folks I know--Emilio, Travis, Sonia,
among others. And I
worked with them on the protection of Arabs and
Muslims after September 11. 
They did what I considered excellent
work nationally as well as locally
through an organization called the Blue
Triangle Network, to which I gave
some money even though I was fairly
certain that it was an RCP front
organization.

So, regarding
Charlie's second question, I would not be opposed by principle
or
prejudice to working with WCW even though, again, I suspect that it is a

front organization for RCP. (However, I am opposed to its joining HPJC if
it
is RCP-related, because HPJC explicitly requires of its members a
commitment
to nonviolence in principle as well as practice.)  What I
would counsel is a
careful evaluation of each activity.

Unlike the
Blue Triangle Network's focus, I think WCW's focus on regime
change is
closely allied with the RCP's primary goal. By regime change, WCW
doesn't
mean, primarily, impeaching and convicting George Bush (which I
believe
they know to be practically impossible). It really means the
overthrow of
the capitalist system, and RCP believes that violent revolution
is a
necessary means to that end.

I'm not sure what the film is to which
Charlie refers.  But let's assume
that it makes a strong case for why
George Bush should be impeached and
removed from office.  Would I
think the film a good tool for non-violent
progressive activists? 
Yes. Would I go to see it? Yes.  Would I encourage
others to see it?
Yes. Would I be annoyed if, after the showing, WCW folks
tried to move the
discussion to the broader level of changing the capitalist
system? 
No.

Would I be annoyed if someone worked hard to recruit me for
WCW?  Not
personally, because I think I have a right understanding of
what WCW is. 
But I would be annoyed if there was recruiting of
others who didn't know
because I don't like that kind of enlistment of
people. If RCP wants to
recuit (and why not?), let it recruit people
directly into the party on the
up and
up.






>From:
>To:
, ,
>Subject:
Re: [PAA-Discuss] Movie Screening by World Can't Wait
>Date: Fri, 2 Dec
2005 09:15:43 EST
>
>Sounds like a great movie and a great cause
that all of us or at least our
>Impeach group should support. I don't
know much about the World Can't Wait
>but
>think it is sponsored
by the RCP. Is that correct? If so, does that worry
>people  on
this list? Should we work with them or at least support their

>actions?
>Would  appreciate some feedback on
this.
>Charlie M



 


Movie Screening

 

Howard Zinn "You Can


Submitted by PAAMember on December 2, 2005 - 11:00am.

Charlie asked whether World Can't Wait is sponsored by the Revolutionary
Communist Party, and if so, whether PAA should work with World Can't Wait
(WCW) or at least support their actions.

The first question came up at the Houston Peace and Justice Center board
meeting in November, because WCW applied for membership. The person
representing WCW said that the local group included a few RCP folks, but
that it was a separate entity. He was vague (perhaps intentionally?) about
the origins and mission of the organization, so the Board postponed the
application and requested more transparency in advance of the next meeting
if WCW chose to continue seeking membership.

I like the RCP folks I know--Emilio, Travis, Sonia, among others. And I
worked with them on the protection of Arabs and Muslims after September 11.
They did what I considered excellent work nationally as well as locally
through an organization called the Blue Triangle Network, to which I gave
some money even though I was fairly certain that it was an RCP front
organization.

So, regarding Charlie's second question, I would not be opposed by principle
or prejudice to working with WCW even though, again, I suspect that it is a
front organization for RCP. (However, I am opposed to its joining HPJC if it
is RCP-related, because HPJC explicitly requires of its members a commitment
to nonviolence in principle as well as practice.) What I would counsel is a
careful evaluation of each activity.

Unlike the Blue Triangle Network's focus, I think WCW's focus on regime
change is closely allied with the RCP's primary goal. By regime change, WCW
doesn't mean, primarily, impeaching and convicting George Bush (which I
believe they know to be practically impossible). It really means the
overthrow of the capitalist system, and RCP believes that violent revolution
is a necessary means to that end.

I'm not sure what the film is to which Charlie refers. But let's assume
that it makes a strong case for why George Bush should be impeached and
removed from office. Would I think the film a good tool for non-violent
progressive activists? Yes. Would I go to see it? Yes. Would I encourage
others to see it? Yes. Would I be annoyed if, after the showing, WCW folks
tried to move the discussion to the broader level of changing the capitalist
system? No.

Would I be annoyed if someone worked hard to recruit me for WCW? Not
personally, because I think I have a right understanding of what WCW is.
But I would be annoyed if there was recruiting of others who didn't know
because I don't like that kind of enlistment of people. If RCP wants to
recuit (and why not?), let it recruit people directly into the party on the
up and up.

>From:
>To: , ,
>Subject: Re: [PAA-Discuss] Movie Screening by World Can't Wait
>Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 09:15:43 EST
>
>Sounds like a great movie and a great cause that all of us or at least our
>Impeach group should support. I don't know much about the World Can't Wait
>but
>think it is sponsored by the RCP. Is that correct? If so, does that worry
>people on this list? Should we work with them or at least support their
>actions?
>Would appreciate some feedback on this.
>Charlie M